ThunderHawk

[ladonna]

I am looking for information on Thunderhawk of the Hunkpapa.
Any information that any of you have come across in your research would be helpful to us on Standing Rock.
Cetan Wakiyan, Chief Thunderhawk
Though little is written about Chief Thunderhawk, it is known that as a young man he was a campanion of Sitting Bull, and a warrior of prominence. Since the Hunkpapa were a small band, Thunderhawk figured was important in Hunkpapa and Lakota affairs. He was chief of his band, a position which he retained all his life. His band followed the buffalo. During the 1870s, Thunderhawk was dominant leader of the reservation Hunkpapa people at the Grand River Agency. After allotment, his band moved to 20 miles below the Agency where his band constituted 28 lodges from Moreau River. He is credited, along with Mrs. Galpin, with saving the life of Father DeSmet. He, along with several other Hunkpapa, represented the Hunkpapa at the Sioux Indian delegation in Washington, D.C. in October 1888. He is buried near Thunderhawk, South Dakota south of Morriston, South Dakota.

[ladonna]

The people under his group in 1885
Okute (Shooter);
Hehaka Najin (Standing Buck Elk);
Sunka Paha Akau Najin (Dog Standing On the Butte);
Wanbli Upi Luta (Red Eagle Tail);
Hin Waste (Good Fur);
Pehin Siksica (Bad Hair);
Ite Nonpa (Two Face);
Isto Weganan (Broken Arm);
Hitunkasan Luta (Red Weasel);
Kangi Wiyaka (Crow Feather);
Cetan Wakiyan Hunka (Thunder Hawk's Mother);
Hehaka Mani (Walking Buck Elk);
Ihpeyupi (Thrown Away);
Tasunke Hin Luta (His Red Horse);
Wapaha Sapa (Black Hat);
Sungila Luta (Red Fox);
Wanbli Wicasa (Eagle Man);
Ista Zizi (Brown Eyes);
Zintkala Gleska (Spotted Bird);
Sipto Hanpa (Beaded Moccasin);
Okahoniyeiciya (Thrown In);
Oyate (Nation);
Miniata (At the River);
Wahacanka Ska (White Shield);
Hehaka He Maza (Iron Horn Stag);

[Dietmar]

Ladonna,

I wish I could add more information, but here are some photos of Thunder Hawk:

Thunder Hawk, Hunkpapa 1872 by Alexander Gardner


Thunderhawk, Hunkpapa 1888 by Charles Milton Bell


Thunder Hawk, front row second from left. in carlisle by John Choate


Thunder Hawk by David F. Barry

Obviously Thunder Hawk´s first delegation trip was in 1872, when he was photographed by A. Gardner in Washington. I found somewhere on the internet that he died August 13, 1906, at the age of 71 years, but I can´t confirm that.

Hope it helps.

Best wishes

Dietmar

P.S.: the first three photos are from the Smithsonian Institution`s SIRIS archive.

[kingsleybray]

Thunder Hawk was born in the second half of the 1830s - 1835 according to the date obtained by Dietmar, 1837-38 according to the 1886 Standing Rock census, which gives Thunder Hawk's age as 47. He was therefore a younger contemporary of Sitting Bull's and is mentioned as a boyhood friend of SB in Utley's biography THE LANCE AND THE SHIELD, p. 10.

Vestal's SITTING BULL, p. 47, notes Thunder Hawk as one of the Hunkpapa warriors who counted coup in the battle with the Crows, June 1859, at Rainy Butte - where Sitting Bull's father was killed.

Thunder Hawk enters the documentary record in 1865. Treaty councils were held at Ft Sully during October of that year. On October 20 the commissioners met with the representatives of a tiny camp of less than ten lodges of Hunkpapas. The camp was located at the junction of Swan Creek and the Missouri, west of modern Akaska, South Dakota. Its leaders included three chiefs - Tall Soldier, Little Bear (father of Tall Soldier), and Iron That Comes Out, plus a chief soldier Whirling Heart, all of whom attended the treaty talks. Judging by earlier postings on the Hunkpapa Bands at the LBH thread, this should be part of the Che-okhba or Droopy Penis band of Hunkpapas. This band became the core of the pro-treaty faction of Hunkpapas.

The main Hunkpapa village in fall 1865 was on the Little Missouri, and the diplomacy of trader Charles Galpin and his Lakota wife (mother Hunkpapa, father Miniconjou: Broken Arrow band) secured the attendance of sizeable deputations from the Hunkpapa and several other tribal divisions. The Galpins brought these paerties in to Fort Rice and then down the Missouri to Ft Sully. On October 28 the Hunkpapa contiongent met with the commission, being represented by the following leaders:

Chiefs:

Gut Fat
Bear Ribs II (Droopy Penis)
Running Antelope (Sore-Backs)
Heart For All

"Soldiers" (i.e. akichita or tribal police):

Thunder Hawk
Iron Horn (Droopy Penis)
Plenty Crows (Droopy Penis)
Fears the Eagle (Droopy Penis)
Spotted Bull


I've added the band name where known.

Thunder Hawk appears again in the treaty commission reports from the following year. At Ft Sully the commission met again the ultra-friendly Hunkpapa camp of Tall Soldier and Plenty Crows, now counted at 13 lodges. On June 21, 1866 the commission met with 600 lodges at Ft Rice, including 173 Hunkpapa lodges. The named leaders were as follows:

chiefs:

Eagle in the Sky
Left-Hand Bear
Thunder Hawk
Fears the Eagle

Note that both Thunder Hawk and Fears the Eagle were akcihita in 1865, rated as chiefs in 1866. Later the commission met with representatives from the non-treaty village of Hunkpapas (by difference from the above figures about 150 lodges) - the people of Four Horns, Sitting Bull, etc. We see here a three-way split in the Hunkpapa tribe, with a small friendly camp; a modest majority of wait-and-sees - this includes Thunder Hawk; and a large minority of non-treaty or 'hostile' people. The four chiefs at Fort Rice, the fact that two of them had been counted as akichita the prev ious fall - make me think these may be the four Hunkpapa Deciders (Wakichunze) seated in spring 1866. These were leaders, not necessarily band chiefs, who were temporarily granted coercive power to run the big summer hunting villages.

Thunder Hawk is next mentioned as one of the party that escorted Fr De Smet to Sitting Bull's village in June 1868 to secure attendance at the treaty talks at Ft Rice. The fact that he with Mrs Galpin is credited with helping save the life of De Smet during the dramatic negotiations makes me think maybe he's a relative of Mrs Galpin's? maybe LaDonna can help out on that connection?

Thunder Hawk is not listed (under that name) as one of the 1868 signatories. He next crops up in the record in a list of headmen at Grand River Agency in March 1870. He together with Gall, Wolf Necklace, Heart For All, Slave, and Little Wound (not to be confused with the Oglala), appear to have arrived at Grand River from the hunting grounds in Jan.-Feb. of 1870. He seems to be a fixture at Grand River/Standing Rock after 1870, accompanying the 1872 delagation to Washington (whence the first phot posted by Dietmar above). He remained at the agency right through the Great Sioux War.

Warrior society affiliations: the skunk skin garters visible in the 1872 shots are said to be part of the regalia of the Crow Owners society. The De Smet 1868 connection suggests that he belonged to the Strong Hearts. Traditionally isolationist and increasingly militant, the Strong Hearts formed a core of the emerging non-treaty people. However, according to Josephine Waggoner one chapter of Strong Hearts formed around the supporters of De Smet - they were said to be pro-trader, even pro-Catholic. This seems to be the origin of the Fool Soldiers who distinguished themselves in 1862 by rescuing white captives from the Santees. Thunder Hawk may have been one of their members.

Hope this helps,

Kingsley Bray

[ladonna]

Thank you Kingsley, I knew about the Gaplins and Eagle Plume Woman (Mrs Gaplin) and Father DeSmet. I do believe there is a relationship with the two. Gaplins daughter were the first teachers on Standing Rock.
I had the descendance of Thunderhawk come and ask for back ground and there was not much I could find. I know that one of the son's ended up in Pine Ridge, One daughter married a yellow fat and another son married a Looking Horse.
I wonder if he was one of the chief appointed by the government?

[Dietmar]

I thought this photograph from SIRIS is of interest, because some of the names mentioned in Kingsley´s post are pictured here:


Group of Chiefs at Standing Rock:
third from right: Bear Ribs II
fourth from right: Thunder Hawk
ninth from right: Mrs. Galpin
eighth from left: Running Antelope
second from left: Wolf Necklace

[kingsleybray]

Hau LaDonna! I heard that descendants of Thunder Hawk are on the Pine Ridge Res, Porcupine District. I just scanned the 1890 Pine Ridge census and find a Thunder Hawk family in the Porcupine Dist., belonging to the Waceunpa (Meat Roaster) band. However the age of this Thunder Hawk, 53, makes him a near-exact contemporary of the Hunkpapa, not possibly a son. Maybe it's a different family and coincidence . . . ?

When did Thunder Hawk and his camp live on the Moreau River?

Just as an idea, could TH's band be the Legging Tobacco Pouch band (Hunksa Chantojuha)? They are not mentioned in early band lists, but appear in the camp-circle obtained by S.R. Riggs - their place was on the north horn, opposite the Sore-Backs (Running Antelope's band on the south horn). Do any of the Thunder Hawk people know what band he belonged to?

All the best

Kingsley

[Dietmar]

This is the Oglala Thunder Hawk. Could he be the one you mentioned?

[grahamew]

You beat me to it with the photo of the Oglala Thunder Hawk!

Do you know who took the photo of the Standing Rock chiefs or when it was taken? I've seen it credited to Fiske, but it looks much earlier than that.

[Dietmar]

I have seen another version of the photo with the inscription "Fiske photo - from an old print". So I think Fiske only copied the original photo of another photographer. The chiefs look not much older than in some 1872 photos by Gardner, so possibly it was taken not much later. John Grass, for example, is shown with long braided hair. Later in 1880s photos he had his hair cut short. Look at the Carlisle photo above where he is standing between Thunder Hawk and Big Head.

Dietmar

[grahamew]

I thought from the clothing that it must be reasonably early. It's a fascinating picture.

[Dietmar]

Absolutely...

...here is another Thunder Hawk photo from SIRIS:

Thunder Hawk by Hamilton & Hoyt, 1872 (?)

[ladonna]

kingsleybray said:

Hau LaDonna! I heard that descendants of Thunder Hawk are on the Pine Ridge Res, Porcupine District. I just scanned the 1890 Pine Ridge census and find a Thunder Hawk family in the Porcupine Dist., belonging to the Waceunpa (Meat Roaster) band. However the age of this Thunder Hawk, 53, makes him a near-exact contemporary of the Hunkpapa, not possibly a son. Maybe it's a different family and coincidence . . . ?

When did Thunder Hawk and his camp live on the Moreau River?

Just as an idea, could TH's band be the Legging Tobacco Pouch band (Hunksa Chantojuha)? They are not mentioned in early band lists, but appear in the camp-circle obtained by S.R. Riggs - their place was on the north horn, opposite the Sore-Backs (Running Antelope's band on the south horn). Do any of the Thunder Hawk people know what band he belonged to?

All the best

Kingsley

Hi Kingsley from what i am told these two families are related to each other. the family from Pine Ridge has been coming to Standing rock to meet with the family here. They say that are related.

[Frank]

Here is one more of Thunder Hawk (of the Hunkpapas):

[ladonna]

Thank you all for adding the information the descendant also thank you. This site has been important to us as a tribal nation. You have given the family some information they did not have. Once again thank you