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Post by lakotadan on Jul 26, 2024 15:54:15 GMT -6
Thank you my friend herosrest.
Your knowledge of the battle is overwhelming! So much to learn, so little time!
However, I find it of interest that no one has responded to my statement (now on 3 threads) about GAC being an egomaniac! Which would show his drive for glory and his disregard for his troops (and their means of travel- horses).
I refer you to one of my posts on a different thread-
"What kind of egomaniac takes 4 relatives of his into a possible battle situation?
Yes, 2 of his relatives were officers. I can see his brother Thomas wanting to be with the 7th and his brother GAC. Maybe James Calhoun (the brother-in-law) wanted to be with the 7th to be in on any glory that GAC could provide.
But how about the younger brother Boston Custer? Didn’t GAC give him some sort of fictitious title so that he could tag along with the 7th? The same goes for the nephew, Harry Reed.
Why didn’t Custer at least split up his relatives and leave some with Reno or Benteen? At least they might not have all gone into battle, or if they did (as actually happened) maybe some would have survived.
But no! Custer wanted all of his relatives with him to see his great victory over the Native Americans!
Well, that never happened!"
My perception is that what happened at the Little Bighorn was the responsibility of the commander, GAC! Placing blame on others is just an excuse!
Again, just my opinion!
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Post by herosrest on Jul 26, 2024 16:49:02 GMT -6
I'll try to respond dilligently but that tends to fail miserably for good old me. Firstly, I was on the hunt and hit Abe's current stock link. They have some of the Weibert's stuff in and i'm contemplating.... shipping is painful. Now. Egomaniac. I mean, what precisely is that? A high ranking army officer...... who knows. How does anyone today know. If I recall, a military psychologist gave the guy a complete clean bill of health whilst others differ. How can anyone possibly know. I do remember that he enjoyed pranks, or a prank or two with his brother but that hardly counts for anything besides fun. Surely it was the subordinate officers with everything to lose, should they tee the guy off - who held grudge and maliced intent towards their CO. In fact, one can guarantee that so, from what is known of the relationships and behaviours in the regiment. You may not be aware that Custer was so concerned for post traders disadvantaging his poorly paid troopers with high prices, that he got into a deadly serious tangle with U.S. Grant, over his (Grant's) brother. That difficulty hung low across Little Bighorn's pre-battle horizon. Hardly anything todo with Custer's ego, was his looking out for the men of his regiment and, actually, the Indians also being disadvantaged. There seems to have been an epidemic of graft problems at that time which threatened re-election. You'll find lists of QM and civilians with the expedition HERE. I know that B. Custer is listed. I didn't check for Reid but he will surely be there too. The list confirms that Sellew was there as well, as discussed in some old topic threads. This was the guy that Custer sent along Tullock to Terry on Far West and is recorded arriving to the boat by the Officer on duty. It's written up in some obscure book about the Chinook by Noyes and Sellew also. The scout served then with Nelson Miles and moved on to become Post Master across near the Yogo Mines in the Little Belt Mountains. In short, Custer was overconfident, but one can imagine Boston and Autie twisting his arm. Do you have some idea of Boston Custer's age? Find a grave Note - the image on the page is not Boston Custer, but rather Autie Reid. His scalp lays in a collection in Kansas somewhere, if I remember what I uncovered when looking at information on him. Boston Custer was 27 years old, and how he came to be with the troops is problematic but he may have carried a message to Mathey, or M cDougall. Obviously, both of them, wanted to be in at the kill and one can assume that Custer did not ignore that wish. Whether Custer gave them permission is moot, he may not have known they were along until it was too late, or not even at all. Boys will be boys. Tom Custer and Calhoun, were serving Officers and if your point is the Sullivan Brothers matter, then blame the army. They sorted it out eventually. Regards.
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Post by lakotadan on Jul 26, 2024 17:01:52 GMT -6
"Whether Custer gave them permission is moot, he may not have known they were along until it was too late, or not even at all."
I find that hard to believe!
And I am aware of the trading post thing. So he was concerned about his troopers being ripped off.
Well, that was nice! But now having some insight into the guys personality, he was probably going to use that in some sort of political campaign in the future!
He was not so much concerned about force marching his troops (and exhausting them and their horses) to chase Native Americans before a battle for his further glory!
You talked about the Sullivan brothers. My friend, that was World War II. You are all over the place trying to defend something!
Of course GAC knew which relatives were with him! He was an egomaniac, but you are alluding to the fact that he was stupid!
My final thought. Whatever happened at the Little Bighorn was the ultimate responsibility of the commander, GAC!
Onward!
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Post by herosrest on Jul 27, 2024 2:17:45 GMT -6
Slander and slur of Custer got underway once Benteen and Reno began defending themselves from Whittaker, and is what it is. Most families love a few skeleton's on the closet but the French aristocracy and those with Louise infatuation, are intolerably bereft of decency. It seems to be catching on these days. Custer was the US Army's senior Lt. Colonel. He had his pick of Colonelcys as they became available through demise, or retirement. Merritt got 5th Cavalry and that put Custer at top of the seniority for what one assumes would be a cavalry regiment. He had made it and it is only pukka silly to assume he would jump at age ...37 was it, from all that he knew- into political puddles which certainly would have drowned him. The President Custer joke is a complete lame duck of rubbish stemming from poorly translated interviews of scouts and other tribal representatives. Please do, refer the relevant sources nominating Custer on behalf of Democratic representatives. There aren't any and it is hogwash. It smacks highly of a very smug and bitter, holier than thou Benteen but let's let that sleeping dog lay. Where is the actual evidence of Custer standing or being nominated into politics, when he was about to be promoted Colonel and get his own regiment? Get me the sources and reference and i'll send you a cocanut. That aside, i've found your ravine. It was filled in in the early 1950's and is located on the terrain where you see a red car travelling up to the monument past the old VC. that ravine ran straight through the embankment existing today and was a significant transformation of the terrain and watershed. Lost (filled in) ravineRegards
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