1876 Maps for Campaigning the Yellowstone
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Ducemus
APPENDIX MM.
ANNUAL REPORT OF MAJOR G. L. GILLESPIE, CORPS OF ENGINEERS, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 1876.
Explorations and surveys, military division of the Missouri.
Headquarters Military Division of the Missouri, Office of the Chief Engineer, Chicago, III., July 11,1876.
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Gillespie provided an important and much ignored or glossed over report of the campaigns and 7th Cavalry's battle. His work was directly co-ordinated to Sherman by Col. O.M. Poe (see Appendix LL) babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b2979902;view=1up;seq=612
The basic information for testing theory in regards military preparation of the Campaigns to sudue the Plains, is found within these documents which advise what maps were available, and particularly those printed in January 1876, and issued to commanders in the field. Sufficient information is provided to test theory and research such as that offered by King, 1989, for example and more modern work such as Nightengale,2016 link or Seitz,1926.
Map - thelbha.proboards.com/post/69785/thread
Note - It is stated clearly, by the senior US Military as quoted below, of the five companies of cavalry destroyed at Little Bighorn, as follows - suddenly came upon a large Indian village located on the left bank of the Little Horn, about 11 miles above its mouth. Major Reno was directed to cross the ford above the village, and make an attack on that side, while Custer led in person five companies in an attack on the north side, 3 miles below. Captain Benteen, with four companies, was held in reserve. Major Reno crossed the river, moved down 1 mile toward the village, and after encountering several attacks from Indians in large numbers, returned to the east bank, where he was joined by Captain Benteen and their position intrenched. But little is known positively of Colonel Custer's attack. This column reached the ford below, but could not effect a crossing, and on attempting to return it was surrounded by Indians and the whole command massacred after a bitter hand-to-hand fight.
Students should strongly focus this view of events, gleaned primarily from Engineering Officers somewhat independent, although not uninfluenced by, 7th Cavalry, in reporting to the Chief of Engineers. The understanding was that Custer was attempting to return. Modern research and theory has broadly (and unfortunately) focused upon activity at western fords in the hope that the kite will fly, and that cotton candy is fluff. Did Custer simply repeat his attack made at Washita and abort that, upon learning of Maj. Reno's withdrawl from battle and Benteen's refusal to join battle?
>link to: Map in 2 sheets; western sheet dated 1877. Highly detailed map, filling in much new information on the original map by Raynolds made in 1859-60 (but published in 1867). <
This map extends one degree further south than the original map, and for some reason the western sheet does not have the mountains drawn in although the water courses are clearly shown. Unfolded, separately issued on thin paper. Relief shown by hachures.
War Department Map Of The Yellowstone And Missouri Rivers And Their Tributaries explored by Capt. W.F. Raynolds Topl. Engrs. and 1st Lieut. H.E. Maynadier 10th Infy. Assistant. 1859-60. Revised and Enlarged by Major G.L. Gillespie ... 1876 ... Published by the authority of the Hon. the Secretary Of War Office of the Chief Of Engineers, U.S. Army. 1876. Engraved in the Office of the Chief of Engineers. Western Sheet Map Of Yellowstone And Missouri Rivers ... 1877.
This map extends one degree further south than the original map, and for some reason the western sheet does not have the mountains drawn in although the water courses are clearly shown. Unfolded, separately issued on thin paper. Relief shown by hachures.
War Department Map Of The Yellowstone And Missouri Rivers And Their Tributaries explored by Capt. W.F. Raynolds Topl. Engrs. and 1st Lieut. H.E. Maynadier 10th Infy. Assistant. 1859-60. Revised and Enlarged by Major G.L. Gillespie ... 1876 ... Published by the authority of the Hon. the Secretary Of War Office of the Chief Of Engineers, U.S. Army. 1876. Engraved in the Office of the Chief of Engineers. Western Sheet Map Of Yellowstone And Missouri Rivers ... 1877.
REPORT OF THE CHIEF OF ENGINEERS. 565
APPENDIX MM.
ANNUAL REPORT OF MAJOR G. L. GILLESPIE, CORPS OF ENGINEERS, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 1876.
Explorations and surveys, military division of the Missouri.
Headquarters Military Division of the Missouri, Office of the Chief Engineer, Chicago, III., July 11,1876.
babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?q1=appendix%20LL;id=uc1.b2979902;view=plaintext;start=1;sz=10;page=root;size=100;seq=613;num=564;orient=0
View Attachment
Gillespie provided an important and much ignored or glossed over report of the campaigns and 7th Cavalry's battle. His work was directly co-ordinated to Sherman by Col. O.M. Poe (see Appendix LL) babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b2979902;view=1up;seq=612
The basic information for testing theory in regards military preparation of the Campaigns to sudue the Plains, is found within these documents which advise what maps were available, and particularly those printed in January 1876, and issued to commanders in the field. Sufficient information is provided to test theory and research such as that offered by King, 1989, for example and more modern work such as Nightengale,2016 link or Seitz,1926.
Map - thelbha.proboards.com/post/69785/thread
Note - It is stated clearly, by the senior US Military as quoted below, of the five companies of cavalry destroyed at Little Bighorn, as follows - suddenly came upon a large Indian village located on the left bank of the Little Horn, about 11 miles above its mouth. Major Reno was directed to cross the ford above the village, and make an attack on that side, while Custer led in person five companies in an attack on the north side, 3 miles below. Captain Benteen, with four companies, was held in reserve. Major Reno crossed the river, moved down 1 mile toward the village, and after encountering several attacks from Indians in large numbers, returned to the east bank, where he was joined by Captain Benteen and their position intrenched. But little is known positively of Colonel Custer's attack. This column reached the ford below, but could not effect a crossing, and on attempting to return it was surrounded by Indians and the whole command massacred after a bitter hand-to-hand fight.
Students should strongly focus this view of events, gleaned primarily from Engineering Officers somewhat independent, although not uninfluenced by, 7th Cavalry, in reporting to the Chief of Engineers. The understanding was that Custer was attempting to return. Modern research and theory has broadly (and unfortunately) focused upon activity at western fords in the hope that the kite will fly, and that cotton candy is fluff. Did Custer simply repeat his attack made at Washita and abort that, upon learning of Maj. Reno's withdrawl from battle and Benteen's refusal to join battle?
Ducemus
You know how crazy this battle becomes, the more you solve, the more there is to study. So, 'cos you swim with the fish (so to speak) in the river with one or two others here, would you take a look at the attached Becker map. I have the feeling that...... he was mapping the entire region, for McClernand. Maguire (rofl)took over for the few days after Montana Column arrived on the valley and....... just adapted the existing work to suit the battleground. Similarities abound to become identical at smaller (greater) scale so that the Squaw Creek as it is understood (where the women gathered protected by SB and OB) was actually the Bighorn River in the planned and partly completed work.
I'm not wrong.
Becker adapted existing work, and certainly the left quadrant of the map. lbha.org/?p=122
This will make a show stopping paper! Join me
Long live the Battle!
Looks like Benteen was correct. LSH was due north of Harding and about 5 kliks short of CTY Rd. 57 as the Crows fly! hehe.
Hi Gerry,
You know how crazy this battle becomes, the more you solve, the more there is to study. So, 'cos you swim with the fish (so to speak) in the river with one or two others here, would you take a look at the attached Becker map. I have the feeling that...... he was mapping the entire region, for McClernand. Maguire (rofl)took over for the few days after Montana Column arrived on the valley and....... just adapted the existing work to suit the battleground. Similarities abound to become identical at smaller (greater) scale so that the Squaw Creek as it is understood (where the women gathered protected by SB and OB) was actually the Bighorn River in the planned and partly completed work.
I'm not wrong.
Becker adapted existing work, and certainly the left quadrant of the map. lbha.org/?p=122
This will make a show stopping paper! Join me
How it happened.... Far West went about 60 miles up the Bighorn, mapping...... we know that from the reports.
I actually reckon, that Maguire just p'd Becker off!
I actually reckon, that Maguire just p'd Becker off!
Some how, things went from the first map, the Gillepie tracing, to the Maguire map which everyone knows.
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Just needs opinion from US Geo. All significant terrain features are there. Way too many for chance or accident.
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Just needs opinion from US Geo. All significant terrain features are there. Way too many for chance or accident.
Looks like Benteen was correct. LSH was due north of Harding and about 5 kliks short of CTY Rd. 57 as the Crows fly! hehe.