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Post by jodak on Nov 30, 2016 7:10:01 GMT -6
[Secret]
From: Washington (Nomura) To: Tokyo November 30, 1941 Purple #1222 (Secret)
Premier TOJO's speech was published here on the 30th in the newspapers under conspicuous headlines. They printed especially noticeably the sentence, "The exploitation of the Asiatics by Americans must be purged with vengeance'." On the other hand, according to the newspapers, a White House secretary has issued an announcement to the effect that Secretary HULL had at once telephoned the President, resting at Warm Springs, concerning the Premier's speech and, as a result, the President, changing his schedule, was leaving Warm Springs on the afternoon of the 30th and is expected to return to Washington on the morning of the first. Inasmuch as this speech will be used extensively for propaganda purposes by the Americans, will you please take suitable steps. Furthermore, will you please send me at once copies of the text (both Japanese and English)?
Army 25761 Trans. 12/5/41 (2)
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Post by jodak on Nov 30, 2016 7:34:34 GMT -6
SECRET
30 November 1941. From: OPNAV.
To: CINCAF (Hart), CINCPAC (Kimmel) (Info). 300419.
Indications that Japan about to attack points on Kra Isthmus (Southern Thailand on the Malay Peninsula) by overseas expedition X In order to ascertain destination this expedition and for security our position in the Philippines desire you cover by air the line Manila Camranh Bay on three days commencing upon receipt this dispatch X Instruct planes to observe only X They must not approach so as to appear to be attacking but must defend themselves if attacked X Understand British Air forces will search arc 180 miles from Tedta Bharu and will move troops to line across Kra Isthmus near Singora X If expedition is approaching Thailand inform MacArthur X British mission here informed X.
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Post by tubman13 on Dec 4, 2016 15:45:00 GMT -6
Damn it, what the hell happened?
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Post by tubman13 on Dec 7, 2016 7:46:23 GMT -6
Pearl Harbor Day. Infamy. Much like the intelligence collapsed prior to December 7, 1941, so did this thread. Ambassadors, bureaucrats, and moderators, oh my!
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Post by Colt45 on Dec 7, 2016 9:22:09 GMT -6
It is a shame this thread discontinued right as we entered December. I was really looking forward to jodak's posts on December days as that was when it was getting really interesting. Seeing the Japanese messages in December and the US messages at the same time, showing the attitudes of both sides just before the attack. This would have really helped in understanding just what happened and why it happened the way it did.
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Post by dave on Dec 7, 2016 18:50:32 GMT -6
I regret that this thread was stopped prior to the 75th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack. The information provided by jodak in this thread was incredible and brought honor to the men and women who perished in that terrible event by remembering them with each post.
Sadly we will not see the documents from 30 November 1941 to 7 December 1941. This thread had nearly run its course and could not have caused that much more angst the last 7 days, could it?
Regards
Dave
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Post by herosrest on Feb 16, 2017 8:00:36 GMT -6
Ducemus
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