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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 12:40:06 GMT -6
I created the same thread on the other board but here it is again. I know that basically it was issued at the agencies and traders (sometimes illegally), but does anybody have more detailed info, sources, etc?
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LBM
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Post by tubman13 on May 12, 2015 16:45:36 GMT -6
They molded some for percussion, molded some for Spencer's(easy reload), they traded for much, they used some shotguns(easy reload). Henry/Winchester's prior to the 73's were all rimfire .44s and easy to acquire. Dead civilians and soldiers always gave up their ammo. Theft worked. The link below is interesting but does not give all you require. NA's along the border got much from Mexico and Comancheros. gunsmagazine.com/guns-of-the-plains-indians/Regards, Tom
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Post by quincannon on May 12, 2015 17:02:01 GMT -6
I would be willing to bet that there was a French version of the Comancheros working out of Canada as well.
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Post by Beth on May 12, 2015 17:15:16 GMT -6
I would be willing to bet that there was a French version of the Comancheros working out of Canada as well. Why French as opposed to English?
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Post by quincannon on May 12, 2015 18:01:04 GMT -6
There is a continuing thread of a French trapper influence of some sort with the Sioux. Know nothing of the details just a mention here or there, and they were probably out there dealing with some tribe or other long before the Sioux made there way into that area. We have some little evidence from Lewis and Clark.
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Post by Beth on May 12, 2015 19:11:14 GMT -6
There is a continuing thread of a French trapper influence of some sort with the Sioux. Know nothing of the details just a mention here or there, and they were probably out there dealing with some tribe or other long before the Sioux made there way into that area. We have some little evidence from Lewis and Clark. Thanks. Kind of makes sense when you consider the Lakota tribe migrated from the upper Mississippi area which had a large French influence.
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Post by tubman13 on May 12, 2015 19:17:21 GMT -6
Rumors have it that whites had visited SB camp earlier in June. No proof and never heard it from NA tales. Many interpreters had French backgrounds and some intermarriage. Speculation only.
Regards, Tom
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 10:55:24 GMT -6
Beth gave me an incredible reference that was just published about an archaeological dig at the Powder River Depot. Lots of 1876 artifacts were recovered. I haven't finished the book yet, but I highly recommend it to you guys.
And thank you Tom for the info.
kind regards, LBM
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Post by dave on May 14, 2015 11:41:50 GMT -6
Littlebigman And the reference is? Regards Dave
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 13:01:56 GMT -6
Whoops! Up to my usual scatterbrained stuff. It's called "Supplying Custer: The Powder River Supply Depot, 1876" by Gerald R. Clark. Here's the Amazon link: tinyurl.com/p2gujxzregards, LBM (stands for Loss of Brain Matter sometimes!)
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Post by dave on May 14, 2015 14:53:58 GMT -6
LBM Thank you for the reference. Regards Dave
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 15:56:16 GMT -6
The Indians bought ammo like you can today as a box containing 20 shells or whatever (there's documentation that the Indians were buying .50-caliber cartridges from Traders with 20 bullets in each for 1 dollar).
Does anybody know if any empty boxes of Indian ammo were found on the battlefield? I don't think anyone could know such a thing, but I thought I'd try.
LBM
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Post by Beth on May 18, 2015 16:19:02 GMT -6
LBM Thank you for the reference. Regards Dave To be fair, I am pretty sure someone on this board recommended the book to me and I just can't remember who to give them credit.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 16:30:26 GMT -6
It's a strange question, I know, but it does fit into interpreting some of my research results, believe it or not. LBM
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Post by Beth on May 18, 2015 16:34:46 GMT -6
The Indians bought ammo like you can today as a box containing 20 shells or whatever (there's documentation that the Indians were buying .50-caliber cartridges from Traders with 20 bullets in each for 1 dollar). Does anybody know if any empty boxes of Indian ammo were found on the battlefield? I don't think anyone could know such a thing, but I thought I'd try. LBM I could be totally wrong, but it seems that a cardboard box wouldn't survive well with a nomad lifestyle. I believe that they would probably carry extra ammo in leather pouches or bags.
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