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Post by tubman13 on Mar 26, 2015 16:10:47 GMT -6
Tom What was the deal about almost crashing your Albatross? Regards Dave Blew left engine above the Dome. On the way from Maxwell to San Antonio!
Regards, Tom
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Post by AZ Ranger on Mar 26, 2015 19:46:37 GMT -6
The Robertsons would have fun with HR.
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Post by quincannon on Mar 26, 2015 21:01:56 GMT -6
An Albatross Beth is an SA 16, the aircraft pictured in Tom's avatar. It was originally conceived as an air sea rescue aircraft and used by the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard. When the Air Force got into the Special Operations business, the SA 16 was found to be a suitable air frame for certain missions, that are best left alone here. Two similar aircraft that were replaced by the SA 16 were the Widgeon and the Goose. The SA 16 is a larger and more capable aircraft than both Widgeon and Goose. A lot of all three are still flying in private and commercial hands.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 27, 2015 17:54:51 GMT -6
The avater should stick now, been busy with stuff and catching up on the comment and insights. A-10 is a great looking plane. Flying artillery and exactly the type of airforce the airforce don't want to be. Precision guidance is changing everything. We'll be using cell phone live video to target airstrikes before long. The Kuhlman ford offered a route across the river which was not exposed to mounted attacks which occured as happened. The retreat could have been concealed and defended if the object was to reach the bluffs.
Look at your map again its labeled Indians. You know that they were shooting at and hit one of French's troopers. You think that Reno was going to take a ford with trail leading to the village. Come on HR your better than that. Regards Benteeneast DucemusBenteeneast said: Reno didn't try to charge a village and did not destroy his command. Reno made the best available choice in his opinion and did not charge the village. I disagree. Strongly and he was lucky to emerge from the retreat with any of those he commanded. We can get into it if you want to but I pointed up an option that he was unaware of, and in the sense that if he had intended going to the bluffs, that was a better way to do it. Of course he actually had no intention of going up onto the bluffs and was forced into the river. Gunfire did erupt into the timber, causing casualties (who were left behind) troops were hit and scouts came under fire also. There was a party of hostiles on the opposite bank, dismounted in the timber. Like three companies of cavalry couldn't do anything about that if they wanted to. That crossing would have been made with enemy to the rear (see below) and a short run to the bluffs rather than the the helter-skelter charge nearly a mile in full view, inviting exactly what happened, again. There were a few hostiles on the east bank of the river when Reno pulled out. Are you suggesting that a significant hostile force was there? It is not in the record. There was a party of hostiles in the timber with Reno, who Herendeen and DeRudio bumped into.
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Post by tubman13 on Mar 27, 2015 18:15:22 GMT -6
I would like to argue the post, but, instead I will complement you on the duck. By the way the post is not terribly skewed either. Not perfect, but nobody should cause an uproar, either.
Regards, Tom
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Post by herosrest on Mar 27, 2015 18:38:39 GMT -6
HR I sometimes post up maps just like the one you have and the reason I do it is to try to explain myself easier as my military experience in zero, but you are playing a different game here, are you suggesting that Reno would know about such fords before he went down the valley? Did he have your map by any chance? Look this guy commanded a three companied battalion with only one officer as his adjutant and maybe a couple of orderlies, he was traversing terrain foreign to him, he then gets embroiled in a fight for life and you are saying that he should have done this and that and the other, well you have hindsight he had nothing, for all he knew he may not see the sun rise the next day. Ian. DucemusReno never mentioned a ford in the timber he occupied. Which makes my point, what the hell was he up to. As to whether it was actually a ford or not, there is Kuhlman's evidence that there was. He made quite an insightful study of Reno's recon in force, it's chapter 4 - babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015003748863;view=2up;seq=78;skin=mobile Enjoy. The book's foreward is a very interesting read, and probably worthy of its own topic here, because it truly gets into some of the real nuts and bolts which people love to research and develop. Quick examples - 'Captain E. S. Luce, U. S. Army, retired, quondam member of the Seventh U. S. Cavalry and veteran of the First World War, from whom I received a typed copy of the Chicago Times record of the Reno Court of Inquiry, together with numerous official documents, a number of little-known manuscripts, valuable data from the records in the office of the Superintendent of the Custer Battlefield Cemetery, now the Custer Battlefield Monument, and finally a map showing the distribution of cartridge cases and other remains east and southeast of the Battlefield, including the discovery of the iron stake marking the spot where the body of Sergeant Butler was found.' This is delightful stuff, long mulled over. babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/imgsrv/image?id=mdp.39015003748863;seq=19;height=717Regards Added - From what I managed to dig up looking at other matters, O.J. Sweets missing report was eventually located by Col. A.B. Welch - Quote 'John Kleinschmidt, of Mandan, was in possession of the original report made by Capt. Owen J. Sweet, 25th Inf., in ‘Report on the Custer Battlefield – May 15th, 1890.’ From the handwritten report I (i.e. Maj. Welch) have copied the following: thus posterity was (eventually) greatly assisted. This site is not fot the faint hearted - It will cost you day and weeks (an outstanding gem) - www.welchdakotapapers.com/2012/02/col-welch-notes-on-custer/#sgt-butlerWhere'd they go?
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Post by herosrest on Mar 27, 2015 19:27:36 GMT -6
DucemusOK folks - take a long hard look.
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Post by Beth on Mar 27, 2015 19:48:15 GMT -6
That is one BIG duck! I think it is staring at me with an evil eye.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Mar 28, 2015 7:01:21 GMT -6
Did you take them wild life pictures HR, if so I commend your effort and skill, I too use the medium of photography and soon I will show a few people this seasons bluebell crop that is slowly taking over my garden.
Ian.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 28, 2015 10:22:12 GMT -6
That is one BIG duck! I think it is staring at me with an evil eye. DucemusThat is ' follow me'. You might need wings. The image is professional and carrying credits. Regards
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Post by herosrest on Mar 28, 2015 10:51:10 GMT -6
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Post by dave on Mar 28, 2015 12:55:44 GMT -6
HR
gustatus similis pullus
Regards Dave
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Post by tubman13 on Apr 25, 2015 15:38:07 GMT -6
Dave, are you attaching the above translation to the B-2 Stealth Bomber? Check out their early test series patch, if you can find it.
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Post by dave on Apr 25, 2015 18:48:27 GMT -6
Tom I was attempting to be funny in regards to the duck. I did not know about the B 2 patch till you mentioned it. Very cool and a great story about the development of the stealth bomber. Regards Dave
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Post by AZ Ranger on Apr 25, 2015 19:11:01 GMT -6
Tastes Like Chicken
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