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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 10, 2011 8:15:35 GMT -6
Widnes Vikings, we signed Jonathan Davis plus other Welsh Union stars in the 1980s. Ian.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Sept 11, 2011 5:36:23 GMT -6
Widnes Vikings, we signed Jonathan Davis plus other Welsh Union stars in the 1980s. Ian. Ah, those were the days! Never mind, they will come again. Hunk
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 11, 2011 7:16:45 GMT -6
Next season I hope Hunk we are back in super league, with the big boys. Ian.
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Post by rosebud on Sept 11, 2011 7:54:10 GMT -6
Regardless of how strong and confident the Indians were, they'd never let soldiers get that close to their village if they knew they were in the area. Even after stopping Crook cold. There was no ambush, there was no letting the Seventh get close enough to send slugs into the village. Maybe they were a bit lax in their monitoring of the area around their camp, but it wasn't due to overconfidence due to stopping Crook at the Rosebud. It was something else. Custer got close because he wasn't detected. Whether you believe it was due to Custer's brilliance or the Indians' lack of scouting, or a mix of both, it happened. And was unlike how they dealt with Crook. The moment they discovered his column, they formed up a large group of warriors, rode overnight and attacked his camp. I'm just not sure the Indians, lacking a central command as DC points out, really had the ability to consistently maintain anything resembling pickets. Chiefs were not absolute rulers. They were followed if "their people" thought it was a good idea, in battle and in life. I'd guess some tribes, like the Uncpapas and the Cheyennes, were more vigilant, due to their propensity for bringing up the front and the rear of larger camps. But then again, maybe not. Because, again, we don't have an absolute command structure. Great post. Indians don't really do much scouting. What they do is go hunting and that in itself accomplishes the same thing as our concept of a scouting party. This also shows how and why villages moved as they did. It is a misconception that hunters went out and brought back meat to the village. Once in a while with a deer maybe but most of the time they kill some Buffalo and move the village to the area where they killed the Buffalo. Once an area is hunted and harvested, there is no need to go back and re hunt the same area. They need to go forward, which ever direction they choose, to hunt and harvest new land. Custer just came on land already hunted so they had no (scouts) hunters to accidentally spot him.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 12, 2011 6:44:22 GMT -6
Hi Rb, When Girard said to Custer, Here are your Indians Running like the Devil, did those Indians reach the village and warn them of Custer’s approach?. Ian.
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Post by rosebud on Sept 12, 2011 8:15:31 GMT -6
When you finish the Custer Myth, get back to me and tell me what you think. I don't want to spoil your fun and tell you the ending. That would ruin it for you.
What would you do if you and your friends saw an army headed for your town and family?
Happy hunting Rosebud
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 12, 2011 8:34:38 GMT -6
I see your point Rb, the closest thing to this was when the Luftwaffe did there best over Widnes in WW2, I was not born then, but the old folks I know have told me all about it. I will keep in touch over the book. Ian.
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Post by bc on Sept 12, 2011 9:32:50 GMT -6
When you finish the Custer Myth, get back to me and tell me what you think. I don't want to spoil your fun and tell you the ending. That would ruin it for you. Happy hunting Rosebud I'd bet he has already finished it. I used to think we were getting basic questions from a newbie. Lately, although still basic questions, the content and quantity of the questions are far more than rudamentary and suggest a greater knowledge of the LBH than even I possess. Couple that with having already put together a roster of soldiers involved that far exceeds the knowledge of a newbie or me for that matter. I think we have an expert in English clothing. It's all in the use of the King's English. bc (being cynical)(again)
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Post by lew on Sept 12, 2011 10:01:12 GMT -6
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 12, 2011 12:29:31 GMT -6
Hi Lew, no I dont, there is a place in Widnes Called Farmworth maby you have got the names wrong. Ian.
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Post by lew on Sept 12, 2011 22:54:58 GMT -6
Ian, I visited Manchester in 1990. Father Adrian Matthews took me to Liverpool to see the Beatle sites-great guy.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 13, 2011 3:38:22 GMT -6
Hi Lew, Liverpool is just 20 mins away by car from us, I am a big fan of the Beatles, the area around where I live is full of History, Chester to the South, Liverpool to the West, Manchester to the East and the Lake District to the North. Rb, went to pick up a book called ''Where Custer Fell by Brust, Pohanka & Barnard this morning, I also bought another book from Amazon U.S.A. called The March of the Montana Column it will take up to 21 days to arrive, the Custer myth is next on the list. Thanks for all your help. Ian.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Sept 13, 2011 5:26:40 GMT -6
I am a big fan of the Beatles... Ian. Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer......
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 13, 2011 7:06:59 GMT -6
Such wise words Hunk, Lennon had great vision and so much to offer, in terms of peace and goodwill, and the rest of the Beatles thought the same, I wonder what he would have made of the world now. Ian.
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Post by rosebud on Sept 13, 2011 7:48:39 GMT -6
the Custer myth is next on the list. Thanks for all your help. Ian.
The Custer Myth should have been first on you list. Congratulations, your are headed in the right direction.
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