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Post by dave on Jan 5, 2016 21:56:09 GMT -6
montrose Great post! The analysis of the company leadership was outstanding.
Your point number 2 regarding the human tendency to surround ourselves with like thinkers occurs in all aspects in society. We all know that it takes friction to hone a blade, unit or department but we do not seek conflict. 'Tis is easier to move the Benteens away and have cheerful companions even if it hurts performance. Regards Dave
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Post by herosrest on Jan 6, 2016 1:32:16 GMT -6
DucemusThe summer of 1876 was a unique coming together of 7th Cavalry and the Officers returns for May indicate a regiment composed as two wings, each of two three company battalions which suggests Custer's mind set which used this deployment with fewer companies during the fight at Washita. A majority of Cavalry Regiments, certainly 5th Cavalry, then including the recently promoted Maj. Verling K. Hart who previously commanded Company C, 7th Cavalry, operated in such fashion with three four company battalions. The arrangement of wings and battalions is confirmed as linked, although the arrangement of leadership of the Wings was annulled after the right wing scout of the Tongue and Mitzpah Creek which disobeyed orders to discover an old trail already reported by Bradley. This indicates the hot headed get up and go frustrations which are given to hallmark Custer and his treatment of subordinates. Reno led the right wing and Benteen the left until Custer demoted both during preparation for attacking Sitting Bull's camp. 7th Cavlry Commisioned Officer's returns for May and July 1876. freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0576_officers_return_p1.jpgfreepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0576_officers_return_p2.jpgfreepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0776_officers_return_p1.jpgfreepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0776_officers_return_p2.jpgAn excellent historical resource. freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/#custerFurthering the topic - where I will state first and for the final time that I do not hate Reno - He deserves his proper place in history. Further - the news article linked, details the actual wing and battalion commander assignments as 7th Cavalry prepared to begin campaining (enjoy - courtesy of Kellogg) www.welchdakotapapers.com/2012/02/col-welch-notes-on-custer/#fort-yates-pioneer-In posterity we have the various individually reported occurences of orders issued to the late Maj. Reno, launching him towards destiny and miserable failures. Custer had parted company a little over a half mile to the east of the river and 'turned his detachment north, while Reno dog-legged west and crossed the river at a ford now given as Ford A. Reno had been ordered by Custer to "move forward at as rapid a gait as he thought prudent, and charge the village afterward, and the whole outfit would support him. According to Reno's official report, "Lieutenant Cook, adjutant, came to me and said the village was only two miles above, and running away," and then he gave the above order. Obviously some awkward and challenging problems here with Reno's version of the thing. Him being a blatant liar because as one and all most certainly should know and can very easily learn from a myriad of sources, the village was not and never did run away, until the evening of the following day. What was Reno up to then, well lets look at what was actually happening out towards the village in the valley. Small numbers of hostiles ahead of the cavalry were running to safety and pony herders in the valley and west of Reno were beginning efforts to gather together grazing and wandering stock, which they would herd towards the village as Reno advanced after his river crossing. Warning of the cavalry's presence near the camps was just arriving to alert the population of impending trouble. Cooke had not seen a running village and neither had Custer and Reno's tilt at Cook's comment has therefore some need of profound consideration and mistrust. Obviously he was not prone to giving of truth and this statement given in his official capacity is slippery at very least. We know from DeRudio that Reno was wet during the crossing, sharing a drink from his bottle of imbibing fluid with interpreter Girard, whilst impiously ignoring said same. It is doubtful at least, and very likely in fact, that Custer had not seen a running village only two miles above because that was a figment of imagination. It had not and did not happen. Figment of confused imagination at crossing the river under Custer's orders - however, later in the day, on the bluffs, Reno did stand watching the tepees being taken down and no doubt happily expecting the village to run, which it did for a mile downriver. Exactly the type of problem which occurs when thinking is confused by misrepresentations. This is a very odd and amusing facet of our abilities where convenient lies are quickly forgotten and over time the reality of an event re-emerges, inadvertently. It is truly fascinating to experience when you realise that someone is lying to you and can simply sit back and wait for time to trip them up. It always happens. Without fail. Moving ahead slightly, it should also be noted that no response to Reno's advance to charge the village occured until he was halting his movement up the valley, and the Hunkpapa hostiles were led out to parley with the Major by Sitting Bulls son One Bull who was followed by Black Moon in charge of that tribes Camp Guard. We know this from One Bull in interview with Stanley Vestal. Thus an interesting look at the reality of the beginning of Maj. Reno's date with destiny is before you. No running village as given by Reno - it did not happen. Let us return to posterity in the guise of a later comer to the valley debacle orchestrated by 'stupid' and consider what was set forth by the commanding officer of the regiments Company H, in a letter to his wife, dated 4th July 1876. Some unfortunate discrepecies emerge between reporting by Terry and Reno, whose report is referred to. a very basic difficulty between given and subsequentl understood sequence of events. I hope this helps. It's not my dog! A scalp taken at LBH on 25th may, 1876. The victim of Custer's command may have been alive to endure this trophying of his demise. Some strategic stuff next and avacados. Patterson Hughes.
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Post by tubman13 on Jan 6, 2016 5:14:52 GMT -6
Brother Dave In my experience those who surround themselves with family and sycophants do so for ego centered reasons. A person who needs continual support and praise makes a poor leader in any profession. Tom Custer, Yates, Calhoun and Weir stand out as acolytes but there were others. Keogh seemed to be the "hail fellow well met" guy in the middle of the regimental politics. He was able to get along with Custer and Benteen, no little feat. Benteen was a hard ass man who detested Custer and his entourage and resented any slight he perceived and sought redress. Great soldier that he was I can see him as a bitter resentful man, especially serving under a lesser man like Custer. Custer had made his own rules since before his arrival at West Point and continued to do so for the rest of his life. He always felt entitled to do as we wished and gotten away it for the most part. Someone, and I forgot who it was, said that "Custer treated the 7th like a fraternity" and he was the chapter president. HR's anger and resentment against Reno is telling. You have to be invested to hate with such fervor and I wonder what his angle is? Distant kin wronged by Custer? Regards Dave DucemusUnfortunately, this is a typical mistake made now by Dave. Start a thread about Custer and you might be surprised. However - if you put personality aside which you may find easy or hard to do, any group endeavour invariably runs along very practised and established lines to the detriment of those who do not wish to fit in. Therefore, firstly, Custer may well have been a nut job prima donna. Reno was a useless idiot and Benteen a little boy with way too much of a big head. Apparently they were all good fighters. What the hell they were doing in the army, is anyone's guess. Like it or not, Custer had a commander's mind and Reno and Benteen were too used to doing their own thing. Besides that. outside my current topic, Reno was a liar, manipulater, could not be trusted, and ratted on his colleagues. He probably beat women, had illegitimate children, chewed tobbaco and enjoyed singing when he was drunk, which got him slung out of West Point. Benteen was a man of principle and blind courage but always, always knew best. Custer should have whipped his little donkey, and sacked Reno, but couldn't, could he. They sat behind Weir's heights out of sight and watching the tepees being taken down in the valley, expecting the hostiles to run. They didn't and what I would give for a picture of Rattie Reno's face when Half Yellow Face was asked why the tepees were being set up again. It's the little things... like giving the impression that Custer was trying to get him killied. That is the classic paranoia problem, isn't it. I have a sneaking admiration for Reno but in the real world I wouldn't spit on him if he was on fire! The Battle on Little Bighorn, 25th June 1876. explained. Military expets, theorists, dice tumblers and historians take note, the centre, Reno's advance, collapsed very quickly preventing development of the attack. Reno ran, Benteen was late. Custer was cut off, forced north, surrounded and wiped out in short order. This occured because the centre (Reno) failed to hold their position and hold the enemy in combat. It is the simplest of military problems. No guts, no glory. This matter also, is, very simple. I cannot and will not abide liars, whatever their excuse and Marcus A. Reno was a liar! He had no honour! He was a disgrace. Alfred H. Terry, 27th June, 1876 - He also came up to Reno. Soon this united force was nearly surrounded by Indians, many of whom armed with rifles, occupied positions which commanded the ground held by the cavalry, ground from which there was no escape. Rifle-pits were dug, and the fight was maintained, though with heavy loss, from about half past 2 o'clock of the 25th till 6 o'clock of the 26th, when the Indians withdrew from the valley, taking with them their village.Stay on topic or get out of it.
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Post by tubman13 on Jan 6, 2016 5:15:55 GMT -6
DucemusThe summer of 1876 was a unique coming together of 7th Cavalry and the Officers returns for May indicate a regiment composed as two wings, each of two three company battalions which suggests Custer's mind set which used this deployment with fewer companies during the fight at Washita. A majority of Cavalry Regiments, certainly 5th Cavalry, then including the recently promoted Maj. Verling K. Hart who previously commanded Company C, 7th Cavalry, operated in such fashion with three four company battalions. The arrangement of wings and battalions is confirmed as linked, although the arrangement of leadership of the Wings was annulled after the right wing scout of the Tongue and Mitzpah Creek which disobeyed orders to discover an old trail already reported by Bradley. This indicates the hot headed get up and go frustrations which are given to hallmark Custer and his treatment of subordinates. Reno led the right wing and Benteen the left until Custer demoted both during preparation for attacking Sitting Bull's camp. 7th Cavlry Commisioned Officer's returns for May and July 1876. freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0576_officers_return_p1.jpgfreepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0576_officers_return_p2.jpgfreepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0776_officers_return_p1.jpgfreepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/Custer/0776_officers_return_p2.jpgAn excellent historical resource. freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyinformation/#custerFurthering the topic - where I will state first and for the final time that I do not hate Reno - He deserves his proper place in history. Further - the news article linked, details the actual wing and battalion commander assignments as 7th Cavalry prepared to begin campaining (enjoy - courtesy of Kellogg) www.welchdakotapapers.com/2012/02/col-welch-notes-on-custer/#fort-yates-pioneer-In posterity we have the various individually reported occurences of orders issued to the late Maj. Reno, launching him towards destiny and miserable failures. Custer had parted company a little over a half mile to the east of the river and 'turned his detachment north, while Reno dog-legged west and crossed the river at a ford now given as Ford A. Reno had been ordered by Custer to "move forward at as rapid a gait as he thought prudent, and charge the village afterward, and the whole outfit would support him. According to Reno's official report, "Lieutenant Cook, adjutant, came to me and said the village was only two miles above, and running away," and then he gave the above order. Obviously some awkward and challenging problems here with Reno's version of the thing. Him being a blatant liar because as one and all most certainly should know and can very easily learn from a myriad of sources, the village was not and never did run away, until the evening of the following day. What was Reno up to then, well lets look at what was actually happening out towards the village in the valley. Small numbers of hostiles ahead of the cavalry were running to safety and pony herders in the valley and west of Reno were beginning efforts to gather together grazing and wandering stock, which they would herd towards the village as Reno advanced after his river crossing. Warning of the cavalry's presence near the camps was just arriving to alert the population of impending trouble. Cooke had not seen a running village and neither had Custer and Reno's tilt at Cook's comment has therefore some need of profound consideration and mistrust. Obviously he was not prone to giving of truth and this statement given in his official capacity is slippery at very least. We know from DeRudio that Reno was wet during the crossing, sharing a drink from his bottle of imbibing fluid with interpreter Girard, whilst impiously ignoring said same. It is doubtful at least, and very likely in fact, that Custer had not seen a running village only two miles above because that was a figment of imagination. It had not and did not happen. Figment of confused imagination at crossing the river under Custer's orders - however, later in the day, on the bluffs, Reno did stand watching the tepees being taken down and no doubt happily expecting the village to run, which it did for a mile downriver. Exactly the type of problem which occurs when thinking is confused by misrepresentations. This is a very odd and amusing facet of our abilities where convenient lies are quickly forgotten and over time the reality of an event re-emerges, inadvertently. It is truly fascinating to experience when you realise that someone is lying to you and can simply sit back and wait for time to trip them up. It always happens. Without fail. Moving ahead slightly, it should also be noted that no response to Reno's advance to charge the village occured until he was halting his movement up the valley, and the Hunkpapa hostiles were led out to parley with the Major by Sitting Bulls son One Bull who was followed by Black Moon in charge of that tribes Camp Guard. We know this from One Bull in interview with Stanley Vestal. Thus an interesting look at the reality of the beginning of Maj. Reno's date with destiny is before you. No running village as given by Reno - it did not happen. Let us return to posterity in the guise of a later comer to the valley debacle orchestrated by 'stupid' and consider what was set forth by the commanding officer of the regiments Company H, in a letter to his wife, dated 4th July 1876. Some unfortunate discrepecies emerge between reporting by Terry and Reno, whose report is referred to. a very basic difficulty between given and subsequentl understood sequence of events. I hope this helps. It's not my dog! A scalp taken at LBH on 25th may, 1876. The victim of Custer's command may have been alive to endure this trophying of his demise. Some strategic stuff next and avacados. Patterson Hughes. Stay on topic or get out of it.
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Post by herosrest on Jan 6, 2016 6:45:32 GMT -6
DucemusI detect a tad touchy, chill. Formation of the regiment, its established structure is fundemental to C&C and provides insight to the CO's methods and go to operating procedures. He relied upon tried and tested practice which is further relevant to urgent response where little time is available to go unorthodox. There is a train of opinion which gives that Custer 'Winged it' in his appproach to battle. How right that is. Left Wing and right. Again, C&C and the lack of it are inherent to consideration of the performance, let's be honest since it was a right performance in the valley by Reno, followed by crocodile tear cameo to Terry, of the regiment's Major and his major blunders. You will find that Gibson gave an account of the thing similar to that of Terry's report of the 27th June, and in the LT's case this as hiding the embarrassment of the 3 -4 hour delay before moving to assist Custer's massacred command. The letter would go to FAL where his wife would be implicit to her friends and the regiment. Thus began the duplucitous dichotomies which riddle the military accounts of evevts from caring, sharing, embarrassed husbands to wives and their grief stricken dearest friends. However which way this perfectly natural decency is framed, it can never apply to Reno who held command on his hill and reported matters to Terry, which Terry reported to Sherman eventually. No mistake here and where it might be deemed that Reno acted in defence of his regiments honour, this is complete twaddle by people who have no standards and do not understand what they are or what for. (In no way should you take this as reflection by myself upon your good person). Reno acted to cover up his heinous failure of dury which was subsequently and ever more mitigated with implausible rubbish that only the naivest of people would fall for. Again, I do not lay this failing upon goodself. Benteen's lettr to his wife at Ft. Rice l believe, was not as guarded and quite straight forward in relating the delay which occured but did not again give of the number of hours spent idly studying tepee construction. All perfectly relevant to topic in broad and specific terms. In regards Reno, way too many people fell and fall for his confusion of personal interests with truth, honour, veracity, decency and military tradition. He lost control, routed the centre of Custer's battle line and brought about disaster in consequence. No command and absolutely no control of his men or his drinking. It is military record under oath in Court that Reno was as drunk as a skunk. His story of events to Terry, stunk like a skunk. We can discuss that if you wish on my current topic about the veracity of battle historians. Be well.
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Post by tubman13 on Jan 6, 2016 9:59:24 GMT -6
DucemusIn regards Reno, way too many people fell and fall for his confusion of personal interests with truth, honour, veracity, decency and military tradition. He lost control, routed the centre of Custer's battle line and brought about disaster in consequence. No command and absolutely no control of his men or his drinking. It is military record under oath in Court that Reno was as drunk as a skunk. His story of events to Terry, stunk like a skunk. We can discuss that if you wish on my current topic about the veracity of battle historians. Be well. Reno was not in command of the operation, the man who was, neither commanded or controlled. His lies about support were more destructive to human life than his hearsay evidence in Washington several months before. He had to beg to get this command and blew it. Your hero spent the day gallivanting about the field, much as he spent the majority of the previous year gallivanting about New York and Washington. With an upcoming campaign imminent, one thinks that he may have applied himself to many of the tasks at hand. Not to be. No need to discuss your topic, as it bores me, maybe you can engage with another.
I am well and hope you are as well.
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Post by fred on Jan 6, 2016 10:10:27 GMT -6
Reno was not in command of the operation, the man who was, neither commanded or controlled. His lies about support were more destructive to human life than his hearsay evidence in Washington several months before. He had to beg to get this command and blew it. Your hero spent the day gallivanting about the field, much as he spent the majority of the previous year gallivanting about New York and Washington. With an upcoming campaign imminent, one thinks that he may have applied himself to many of the tasks at hand. Not to be. No need to discuss your topic, as it bores me, maybe you can engage with another. Extremely well said. Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by herosrest on Jan 6, 2016 18:06:23 GMT -6
Reno was not in command of the operation, the man who was, neither commanded or controlled. His lies about support were more destructive to human life than his hearsay evidence in Washington several months before. He had to beg to get this command and blew it. Your hero spent the day gallivanting about the field, much as he spent the majority of the previous year gallivanting about New York and Washington. With an upcoming campaign imminent, one thinks that he may have applied himself to many of the tasks at hand. Not to be. No need to discuss your topic, as it bores me, maybe you can engage with another. Extremely well said. Best wishes, Fred. DucemusThis is the Kicking the dead lion debate. Regardless of any timeline, Benteen got to Ford A as Reno retreated, Custer was at the B fords. There is no need of military participant record to show this. Tribal record gives it. Therefore, any conclusion that Reno was abandoned is a figment of the concluders biases and imagination. Reno was supported, and pulled out of the centre of Custer's deployment and as with any battle line, that is what was deployed. disaster ensued because the centre folded. Very simple, straight forward military deployment which was at risk should any one component fail in its mission. You all know the story and its consequences. Benteen was delayed, Reno pulled out to a ridiculous position, Custer's command were cut off from the balance of the regiment and overwhelmed. Benteen did not commit. Reno bugged out. Custer got the short end of the stick. Survival of the seven companies shows that the five could have survived and that the twelve could have ovecome their opposition. As Custer very obviously intended. Reno hold. Benteen strike. Custer strike. This was Reno's given opinion, had the regiment been held together it would have been victorious. He was an idiot. If you cannot fathom how the attack would unfold, I'm quite happy to scheme it up for you. Start with Benteen committing into the hostile horde (including Wooden Leg) who flanked Reno. They would yield and retreat. What next? Remember - this would happen at 17 mph. That is Benteen, at 17 mph. Slam - straight into Wooden Leg.
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Post by herosrest on Jan 6, 2016 18:43:35 GMT -6
Ducemus
Shall I develop the attack further, or would someone care to take up the reins? We're doing pure Custer.
I can give you a model. Cannae.
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Post by wild on Jan 7, 2016 1:06:01 GMT -6
Herosrest Custer's command were cut off from the balance of the regiment and overwhelmed. Benteen did not commit. Reno bugged out. Custer got the short end of the stick
It was Custer's decision to open the engagement in negative time with insufficent forces. 5 companies could not stand alone against the weight of numbers the Indians could mass against them. What chance 3 companies? Reno's 3 companies could not make up the time he[Custer] lost by sending Benteen on that pointless oblique. Nor were they ordered to hold but to attack ;an attack which threw away the one advantage Custer had ;surprise. The mission as ordered by Custer was attack with support you turn that into hold with no support.
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Post by AZ Ranger on Jan 8, 2016 5:21:06 GMT -6
Remember - this would happen at 17 mph. That is Benteen, at 17 mph. Slam - straight into Wooden Leg.
HR Which mule do think could travel at 17 mph?
AZ Ranger
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Post by AZ Ranger on Jan 8, 2016 5:35:32 GMT -6
HR
Benteen does not end up near Ford A by a plan that Reno could rely upon. We live in a world of easy communication and not being able to see where someone is no problem. Reno moves to where the rest of the regiment was last seen. That being out of the valley and the other side of river.
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Post by herosrest on Jan 15, 2016 23:43:47 GMT -6
Ducemus
Response. If you are told you will be supported, you will be supported. No conditions or get out clause was applied.
What happened is understood and much mulled over. Reno was sent off to make an attack and kind of did. As far as is known, only he did. So, a question is why didn't the five companies attack. I'm not going to explain that to you but will say this - Custer's command arrived within 600 yards of the MTC crossing, cavalry tracks led to the river and turned back, and if you wish to accept the scout Curley, a Company was sent along the river towards the Realbird ford whilst the others moved onto the divide with Deep Coulee and beyond. At that point, 7th Cavalry's right wing (five companies minus that giving rearguard) were up the creek because the retreat from the valley by Reno, allowed hostile forces to swarm onto Weir's heights and into MTC, cutting off the five companies and HQ from returning upriver.
Those companies were pushed to the north from Deep Coulee and Realbird because there was nowhere else to go and for what ever reason, the decision was not to stand at the river and near water. That is why the five companies were destroyed. You can play out that attack a hundred times and the result is the same every time with no probability of survival. The only chance for that command was a return upriver, east of it, the way they came in. You can describe Reno's actions in any way that you like but the retreat caused Custer's massacre.
Any realistic timeline advises that Benteen should have and could have reached Reno to join the fighting in the valley.Since Custer's command did not immediately attack across the river the best guess that anyone can make, is delay to bring Benteen on before attacking with the five companies. A prevalence of posters here seem to think that testimony by 7th Cavalry at Reno's inquiry is all the history that there is and its not so and silly really. Reno caused the defeat which took place, that does not mean it would not have happened in a different way had his battalion hung on for Benteen to arrive, but the actual defeat and massacre was as result of the retreat from the valley. Those who don't want to hear that - shut your legs. Had Benteen arrived to support Reno with a charge into the valley, there is example of the initial hostile response from Marquis/Wooden Leg, and the yield, retreat from Reno's dash for the river until it was realised what was happening. Benteen and his battalion going at them would have been a different prospect. The five companies then launching across the river added to pressure and complication on defenders. The packs and rearguard then would be arriving to the river and able to further attack or cover a retreat.
This is a valid and realistic scenario for what was intended and is as simple as it gets in the situation which Custer developed. believable complication with the five companies deployed downriver is attacks by the so called Wolf Tooth bunch who interrupted or interdicted proceedings. I'll just say it once more for clarity, Benteen could have reached Reno much sooner and depending on the length of time assigned to watering his horses it would have been in time to materially affect events. Reno would have been looking at, rather than for, his support. If you do not accept that the five companies woud then attack, well...... enlighten me. Custer was shot, maybe? Custer was a coward, maybe? Custer freaked out or was drunk, maybe?
How such an attack would resolve itself - no-one can say but tadding off miles down river to grab some hostages and halting ages then before realising something was amiss, is daft. It is a simple premise of how was Custer going to deliver an attack. The complication once you begin studying his tactics is the fight in 1873 where he let Gaul and the Hunkpapas cross to attack him. However, we know Custer's stated intention to his companies - to make a crossing and capture the village. The attack made, failed because Reno retreated before his support arrived. Would Benteen have attacked?
That is what I see, and that is what I understand. Whether it was going to work is moot. Reno ran. Benteen was late. Custer did not strike. Reno was an experienced and very long serving officer and had no excuse for what he did or caused. I've mentioned how he wriggled out of the consequences, elsewhere. This was the stuff raised by Whittaker 140 years ago and is as valid today, as then. RCoI not withstanding. So sorry! Would it surprise you, that, just as Reno's convictions were quashed, the Inquiry into his conduct can still be challenged.Imagine the media machine getting its teeth into that.... lovely. LBH eerywhere! Book sales go through the roof. A media fest explosion. Politics. War. Military. Btrayal. Misery. Reputation. I can't wait... hehe,,,,
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Post by herosrest on Jan 16, 2016 0:26:16 GMT -6
Remember - this would happen at 17 mph. That is Benteen, at 17 mph. Slam - straight into Wooden Leg.HR Which mule do think could travel at 17 mph? AZ Ranger Ducemus He left them behind. As I argued the note says B not ps. If he had pressed on, he would have missed Martin and been supporting Reno.
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Post by herosrest on Jan 16, 2016 0:38:33 GMT -6
Ducemusaccording to fred & tubman, Custer is a liar. Well what a jolly bunch they were, eh. Reno was lying through his teeth to Terry and Smith. I showed, definitively that 7th Cavalry were constituted as two wings of two battalions each, so i'm lying also? I suppose. Anyways, don't clap............ I never give you anything, do I? Meat, grist and potato - all four pages courtesy of, Col. Smith for information so fully and freely given. The earliest public notification of events. Flattering to all involved. The flatter the better. Smith remained at Bismarck organising troops and supplies, thus his knowledge at that time reflected 27th June until Far West's departure with wounded and despatches. Bismarck Weekly Tribune., July 12, 1876 - chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84022129/1876-07-12/ed-1/seq-1/ Four pages At last my research is all but established and the rest should be a breeze. The history of the historians. How history is made. It will be an excellent read. I may be requesting your photos chaps.
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