Post by herosrest on Jan 11, 2013 11:37:33 GMT -6
At Reno's Inquiry, George Wallace used the 2pm time in Lt. Maguire's report of July 10th, as the basis of his testimony. Maguire did not substsntiate or agree that basis for Wallace's time data. Wallace is at odds with all other information that did 'not' refer to him, which Benteen did for example. Am I attacking Benteen? No! He would beat the cra* out of me
The inquiry which took place in 1879 was the consequence of a personal dispute between Maj. Reno and F. Whittaker, convened by approval of Maj. Reno's request that his grievances and accusations against him be settled before an inquiry, rather than duel. The inquiry was a personal matter of irreconcilable disputes between two parties.
Officers on the field after the battle told its story, that is not good enough today for those involved in the rollicking twists of the Custer, Benteen, Reno and Terry, justifications. It was Terry's fault, his intelligence was faulty and he relied upon Custer against better judgement and the proof was journaled by Lt. Bradley before the battle took place.
That friends and family supported each of those named above, is the truth. 'They' could not leave matters settle, as for example Lt. Hughes who on the 20th anniversary, no less, kicked it all off again and forever agued it over and over with Godfrey.
His map of the battle, genealogytrails.com/mon/bighorn/battlemap.jpeg note Lone tepee and Benteen's route of approach. Benteen did divide his column and Weir, according to Edgerley, approached the ford where they were sighted by Lt. DeRudio in the timber. Hughes account of the battle is critical of Custer's exceedingly bad generalship but failed to grasp the simple military principle of concentrating force. Custer did not cross the river and no~one today is any the wiser.
Criticism of Custer's tactics began on the day of battle with scouts apparently advising not to attack or divide his forcs. This is exemplified by Reno's take on Custer and in light of the defeat it is justified. Custer made a mistake.
Reno did also, in an unauthorised withdrawl from battle that prevented his supporting battalion entering the battle. Benteen saw the retreat and had Reno held but minutes longer, his support was to hand whether he then chose to retreat on Ford A or invite Benteen to the party the forces engaging him could not release to join attacks on Custer's command.
To my mind, the best of warrior accounts was that given by Flying By to Walter M. Camp and catches events perfectly. How much of it is Camp and how much actual, is interesting consideration.
confusions are legion and enduring, and the route of march issue to MTC is the product of a long standing disagreement between Varnum and Godfrey, to which Camp was a party and tended towards Godfrey. The route to MTC over Weir's Peaks and bypassing Cedar Coulee, followed by the road, crosses private land.
Evidence that has evolved into use of Cedar Coulee is flimsy and stems from Godfrey, 10th anniversary and ideas that cavalry did not approach the river, cross it, or fight there. Godfrey and Camp believed that the village stretched downriver beyond Deep Ravine and their concept of events is therefore compleyely flawed. Godfrey had one idea and Edgerley presented the actual, it was known the village moved downriver during the 25th June. Godfrey and Camp are seriously compromised in their assertions of the way it was. Camp did adopt a process of evolution as his enquiries developed and continued.
A number of questions pertain to messages sent between Custer, Reno and Benteen, and regardless of all other aspect, there are too many problems with these matters for the entire issue to be ignored or sidelined.
Whatever your take on it, Reno's retreat released significant forces to join combat with Custer's command and that wasa failure by Reno which prevented the balance of the regiment engaging in battle and supporting Custer. There was and is plenty of blame to distribute fairly and broadly, if that must be the way of it. Which it is for many and emotion twists logic. Benteen's battalion arrived near the village at 2pm on the 25th June. That is the fact of the official revord of the battle, which has nothing to do with the Reno Inquiry.
Click the link archive.org/stream/volunteercavalr00whitgoog to appreciate why Reno would not ignore Whittaker.
The inquiry which took place in 1879 was the consequence of a personal dispute between Maj. Reno and F. Whittaker, convened by approval of Maj. Reno's request that his grievances and accusations against him be settled before an inquiry, rather than duel. The inquiry was a personal matter of irreconcilable disputes between two parties.
Officers on the field after the battle told its story, that is not good enough today for those involved in the rollicking twists of the Custer, Benteen, Reno and Terry, justifications. It was Terry's fault, his intelligence was faulty and he relied upon Custer against better judgement and the proof was journaled by Lt. Bradley before the battle took place.
That friends and family supported each of those named above, is the truth. 'They' could not leave matters settle, as for example Lt. Hughes who on the 20th anniversary, no less, kicked it all off again and forever agued it over and over with Godfrey.
His map of the battle, genealogytrails.com/mon/bighorn/battlemap.jpeg note Lone tepee and Benteen's route of approach. Benteen did divide his column and Weir, according to Edgerley, approached the ford where they were sighted by Lt. DeRudio in the timber. Hughes account of the battle is critical of Custer's exceedingly bad generalship but failed to grasp the simple military principle of concentrating force. Custer did not cross the river and no~one today is any the wiser.
Criticism of Custer's tactics began on the day of battle with scouts apparently advising not to attack or divide his forcs. This is exemplified by Reno's take on Custer and in light of the defeat it is justified. Custer made a mistake.
Reno did also, in an unauthorised withdrawl from battle that prevented his supporting battalion entering the battle. Benteen saw the retreat and had Reno held but minutes longer, his support was to hand whether he then chose to retreat on Ford A or invite Benteen to the party the forces engaging him could not release to join attacks on Custer's command.
To my mind, the best of warrior accounts was that given by Flying By to Walter M. Camp and catches events perfectly. How much of it is Camp and how much actual, is interesting consideration.
confusions are legion and enduring, and the route of march issue to MTC is the product of a long standing disagreement between Varnum and Godfrey, to which Camp was a party and tended towards Godfrey. The route to MTC over Weir's Peaks and bypassing Cedar Coulee, followed by the road, crosses private land.
Evidence that has evolved into use of Cedar Coulee is flimsy and stems from Godfrey, 10th anniversary and ideas that cavalry did not approach the river, cross it, or fight there. Godfrey and Camp believed that the village stretched downriver beyond Deep Ravine and their concept of events is therefore compleyely flawed. Godfrey had one idea and Edgerley presented the actual, it was known the village moved downriver during the 25th June. Godfrey and Camp are seriously compromised in their assertions of the way it was. Camp did adopt a process of evolution as his enquiries developed and continued.
A number of questions pertain to messages sent between Custer, Reno and Benteen, and regardless of all other aspect, there are too many problems with these matters for the entire issue to be ignored or sidelined.
Whatever your take on it, Reno's retreat released significant forces to join combat with Custer's command and that wasa failure by Reno which prevented the balance of the regiment engaging in battle and supporting Custer. There was and is plenty of blame to distribute fairly and broadly, if that must be the way of it. Which it is for many and emotion twists logic. Benteen's battalion arrived near the village at 2pm on the 25th June. That is the fact of the official revord of the battle, which has nothing to do with the Reno Inquiry.
Click the link archive.org/stream/volunteercavalr00whitgoog to appreciate why Reno would not ignore Whittaker.