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Post by shan on Aug 5, 2011 11:25:31 GMT -6
Ian,
in spite of quincannons reservations, I live in the middle of Devon, miles from a local library, but they have for the most part, always found the books I requested, amongst which is the book you mentioned.
For my own part I found myself disagreeing with him---not a bad thing in itself---- and that by and large it was a rehash of information one can find in other books.
Very much a case of one up for the library service, as I'm very I'm glad I didn't pay money out for it, whatsmore, if I had a top 10 best books on the subject, I'm afraid it wouldn't be in the running,
Shan
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Post by Yan Taylor on Aug 6, 2011 8:28:22 GMT -6
Yes Shan, I am going to search our county Library data base for some of the books people have told me about. Regards Ian.
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Post by Reddirt on Aug 6, 2011 9:54:43 GMT -6
I would like to recommend, "The Last stand" by Nathanial Philbrick.
The narrative is easy flowing, informative, and even-keeled when discussing the various actions of the participants. No one is single out for total responsibility for the outcome of the battle and some "new" tidbits of interesting information are offered.
I've just started my second reading and I am enjoying it as much as I did before!
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Post by Yan Taylor on Aug 6, 2011 13:18:37 GMT -6
I will add it to my list, thank you Red.
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Post by fred on Aug 6, 2011 20:27:35 GMT -6
Ian,
I have heard the Kershaw book is not very good, but from my perspective, it is probably worth reading. I do not know what reviews you have seen, but people I have spoken to did not like it. With only one exception I can think of, I would never recommend NOT reading someone's work. Kershaw is ex-military (your service, I believe), so he adds that perspective to it.
Zekesgirl,
With Richard Fox' book and Willert's LBH Diary, I wouldn't need anything else.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by markland on Aug 7, 2011 2:07:02 GMT -6
Ian, I have heard the Kershaw book is not very good, but from my perspective, it is probably worth reading. I do not know what reviews you have seen, but people I have spoken to did not like it. With only one exception I can think of, I would never recommend NOT reading someone's work. Kershaw is ex-military (your service, I believe), so he adds that perspective to it. Zekesgirl, With Richard Fox' book and Willert's LBH Diary, I wouldn't need anything else. Best wishes, Fred. I initially gave it a bad mark but reconsidered. I think his writing is more exciting than the normal LBH writer and he still covers the same information. Without getting the feline off my lap to walk downstairs and check, I seem to remember he is ex-military too. I'll check later today. Billy P.S. Fred, is what BC said true? That you caused Thursday's crash?
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Post by fred on Aug 7, 2011 7:34:43 GMT -6
Billy,
Despite what my friend Conz and "keogh" say, the Fox book is first-rate, not only for a historical analysis, but with his depiction of battle psychology as well. The man uses myriad sources and his reasoning and logic are straight-on. He makes the necessary allowances for picked-over artifacts and states as much in the book, developing his theories accordingly. The rub with Fox is that he destroys a lot of old, hoary pet theories with the most empirical approach anyone has taken to date. I haven't been "next door" in a fairly long time, but I doubt the criticisms have changed much and what Fox' work does is make a mockery of "keogh's" claims of tactical expertise; the man is nothing but a grammar school tactician, his skills honed by riding a rented horse.
As for the market... I know nothing!, as Sergeant Schultz so eminently said. All I do know is that an awful lot of people are calling me asking what they should do. It is rather nice to be able to help.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by markland on Aug 7, 2011 11:26:58 GMT -6
Billy, Despite what my friend Conz and the idiot "keogh" say, the Fox book is first-rate, not only for a historical analysis, but with his depiction of battle psychology as well. The man uses myriad sources and his reasoning and logic are straight-on. He makes the necessary allowances for picked-over artifacts and states as much in the book, developing his theories accordingly. The rub with Fox is that he destroys a lot of old, hoary pet theories with the most empirical approach anyone has taken to date. I haven't been "next door" in a fairly long time, but I doubt the criticisms have changed much and what Fox' work does is make a mockery of "keogh's" claims of tactical expertise; the man is nothing but a grammar school tactician, his skills honed by riding a rented horse. As for the market... I know nothing!, as Sergeant Schultz so eminently said. All I do know is that an awful lot of people are calling me asking what they should do. It is rather nice to be able to help. Best wishes, Fred. Fred, my bad. I didn't specify that I was talking about Kershaw's book not Fox's. I agree with your sentiments though. Billy
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Post by Diane Merkel on Aug 8, 2011 17:54:24 GMT -6
As for the market... I know nothing!, as Sergeant Schultz so eminently said. All I do know is that an awful lot of people are calling me asking what they should do. It is rather nice to be able to help. Chuck and a friend, who also is our Merrill Lynch broker, left this morning to drive up to West Point. I'm guessing it's a good week for a stock broker to be out of the office.
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Post by benteen on Sept 2, 2011 12:50:39 GMT -6
I was looking for Freds new book on Amazon and I also came across this, Red Sabbath: The Battle of Little Bighorn By Robert Kershaw The Reviews are excellent and I wonder if any one has read it over here. Regards Ian. Ian, Capt Fred's book is outstanding and a must have. I have Red Sabbath and read it again for you. I enjoyed and thought it is a good book. I recommend it. However in fairness I have to point out to you 1- I am not a fan of Custer at the LBH (To put it mildly) and enjoy any book that is not a boot licking Eulogy to the man. 2- Mr Kershaw is not good on sources. For example,briefly put,he states that in the timber Reno said to Capt French "What do you think Tom" French replied "We better get out of here" This would be great for me to use in a debate, however when I looked for his source, there was none 3- Ian, read books for enjoyment, but if you are going to use one for a reference to support an opinion, make sure the author has a source Be Well Dan
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Post by crzhrs on Sept 2, 2011 13:17:45 GMT -6
I still haven't read Philbrook's book and probably won't . . . to many holes from what reviews I've seen . . . While Fred's book is certainly an important addition to the LBH library, the price is something I am not ready to spend as of yet.
I am reading, however, Athens & the Peleponesse by Cardogan . . . since I'll be vacating in Athens and the Peleponesse this October while you all are nitpicking and insulting each other over posts.
Yassou and I'll be drinking many shots of Ouzo and enjoying an ancient culture that far outshines anything in North America, let alone the rest of the known world.
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 6, 2011 8:47:54 GMT -6
I tried to get the Little Big Horn Diary, Jim Willert, the other day from the Library, the said that it was too expensive to buy for me because the cheapest on they could find of amazon was over a hundred pounds (thats one good thing about the library, if it has not got the book you request in stock it will buy if the price is under 25 pounds) I did get the Fox book though. Regards Ian.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Sept 6, 2011 16:41:51 GMT -6
I tried to get the Little Big Horn Diary, Jim Willert, the other day from the Library, the said that it was too expensive to buy for me because the cheapest on they could find of amazon was over a hundred pounds (thats one good thing about the library, if it has not got the book you request in stock it will buy if the price is under 25 pounds) I did get the Fox book though. Regards Ian. Ian, I suggest that you contact the Custer Association of Great Britain to see if any of their members live close enough to you to perhaps lend you some of the LBH books you would like to read. You can contact them via their website www.custer-association-gb.org.uk Hope that helps but if you can't find them, let me know. Sincerely Hunk
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Post by Yan Taylor on Sept 7, 2011 8:58:01 GMT -6
Thanks Hunk, its a long shot but I will give it a go. Ian.
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Sept 7, 2011 16:17:27 GMT -6
Does anyone know what has happened to the lady who started this thread, clw aka Sadee? I have not heard from her in over 8 months now and I am getting no response to my e-mails, which I find of concern.
Regards.
Hunk
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