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Post by Tricia on May 14, 2008 20:16:27 GMT -6
Another dumb question ... in reviewing a different manuscript, I keep stumbling across a term, "the Nations," as some kind of reference to the lands west of Missouri, specifically, to the west of southwestern Missouri. I am wondering if this is a reference to the Indian Territory as a whole, or rather, a more specific part of it--? Again, Cherokee?
I believe this story takes place during the American Civil War and is located in the areas Quantrill raided in what we Arkansans would call the "lower" parts of Missouri.
Any help is appreciated. I did some digging on Google, but could find nothing of significance.
--t.
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Post by stevewilk on May 14, 2008 23:31:26 GMT -6
This term refers to the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole) who were settled on lands ceded by the Osage and Quapaw. By 1856 each of these tribes had established territory with boundaries, including their own judicial systems and constitutions. These were national domains, not reservations. Hence the term "nations". A few smaller tribes were relocated from Texas to the western part of the territory (Caddo, Wichita, Waco) before 1860; but the major tribes like the Comanche, Cheyenne and Osage came later.
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Post by alfuso on May 15, 2008 8:59:24 GMT -6
The Five Civilized Tribes were a Trading Cartel and you did it their way at their price or they made you an offer you couldn't refuse.
alfuso
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Post by crawdaddo on May 17, 2008 23:15:30 GMT -6
I have seen the term used as a reference to Oklahoma after that part of the land that was set aside as Indian territory. So you take your pick......cheers Cdo...
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Post by crawdaddo on May 18, 2008 0:38:59 GMT -6
God bless Woody Guthrie.
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Post by gary on May 18, 2008 9:41:48 GMT -6
'The Indian Territory' (originally 'the Indian Country') was the land set aside in 1819 for the Five Civilized Tribes (the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole) who were forcibly removed from there homes in the East. It covered most of what is now Oklahoma. I believe that it did not originally include the Panhandle.
Gradually, the western parts of the territory were appropriated for other tribes, including the Cheyenne, Arapaho, Osage etc. The Five Civilized Tribes (or nations) retained the eastern section of the territory which became known as 'The Indian Nations', or simply, 'The Nations'.
Eventually, the western section (including the Panhandle) became known as Oklahoma Territory, whilst the eastern section was known as Indian Territory. The two parts were incorporated into Oklahoma when it became a state in 1907.
Oklahoma has quite a complicated political history, but this is a rough outline of the various changes of name over the years.
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Post by gary on May 18, 2008 9:43:18 GMT -6
And yes, god bless Woody Guthrie. My favourite of his is 'Pretty Boy Floyd'.
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Post by BrokenSword on May 18, 2008 14:19:28 GMT -6
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