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Post by chadron21 on May 5, 2008 14:45:57 GMT -6
I found out at the last minute that I will be able to visit the battlefield in early August. I have always wanted to see the route from the Crow's Nest to the battlefield. What is the best way to obtain landowner permission as I understand that much of this is on private property. Is it best to hire a guide or save some money and go it alone? Thanks is advance for any and all help.
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Post by fred on May 5, 2008 15:52:23 GMT -6
Chadron--
I was there last June with several friends. One of them was good friends with Richard and Dennis Fox. Dennis lives in Hardin and Richard is there in off-season (from teaching). They know everyone in the area and we gave them 1 1/2 years heads-up. They made all the arrangements to get us up TO the Crow's Nest, via Davis Creek, but at the top of the divide we could go no farther. The owner of the land west of the divide is apparently something of a ----- [fill in the blank] and has even gone so far as to cut the trail with fences. We had to swing around (with permission, natch) to the north and from there we picked up the public road (... er... dirt trail). We took that to Ford A.
The public road can bring you from Ford A, eastward to beyond-- east of-- the morass. This is a morass near the egress of No-Name Creek, just west of where Benteen hit Reno Creek.
Unfortunately, I doubt very much if you will be able to traverse the trail west from the divide to close to that morass. In any case, it is rather insignificant anyway (someone should tell that to the landowner). Having been there, my next heart-throbbing adventure would be to try to replicate Benteen's route to the left. Now that would be fun!
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by chadron21 on May 6, 2008 8:31:17 GMT -6
Thanks for the information. I had read some comments on this topic before on this board. I was trying to find them and just decided to start this new thread instead as I am lazy.
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Post by Treasuredude on May 7, 2008 18:11:56 GMT -6
I was one of those along with Fred on the Richard Fox tour. I was riding in the passenger seat of Rich's 4x4 on our way to the Crow's Nest and the divide. We got to a gate and I hopped out to open it. A lady carrying a broom appeared out of nowhere and started screaming at me. I went into cardiac arrest. Rich and Dennis Fox got out and she recognized them immediately. Everything was cool. I guess what I'm trying to say is -- get a guide who knows the landowners. Much less headache and a whole lot safer. The late great PJ Solla snapped the picture below while our group was at Reno-Benteen... L to R. Michael "Fullsail" Olson, Fred "The Weasel/Rat" Wagner, Scott "Treasuredude" Nelson, Dr. Richard Fox, Michael Donahue, Michael "Max" Reeve, and Frank "Bubbabod" Bodden. This same photo may be hanging in your local post office.
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Post by fred on May 7, 2008 19:44:20 GMT -6
I was one of those along with Fred on the Richard Fox tour. Yeah, unfortunately! But you know, Scott, you have no knees! I can't believe it! And your calves are too low! Wow! No knees and low calves! And look at the legs on those other clowns! The muscles match the ones in their heads. Maybe I better re-think '09.
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Post by Treasuredude on May 8, 2008 7:35:25 GMT -6
First, real men wear shorts in snake country.
Second, don't make me post the photos of the zip away pants.
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Post by BrokenSword on May 8, 2008 7:45:55 GMT -6
Why does Fred look so confused? Just curious.
M
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Post by biggordie on May 8, 2008 9:01:59 GMT -6
It's obvious, M. Note that he is the only one not wearing a hat. Ten days without a hat under the fiercely sunshiny Montana and Wyoming skies [they have different skies, being in different time segments, depending upon the elevation (how high you are), platitudes and logarithms] will fry one's brain and lead to confusion.
Note, however, that Fred was still able to follow the instructions to look at the camera and try not to fall down. Rather than thinking "sex" he is saying "whuh?"
Note also that the photographer has used side-lighting so that the burst blood vessels in the men's noses are less evident [the camera had red-eye, but not red-nose, reduction]. Ranger Donohue has donned his mustache and dark glasses disguise, so as not to be recognizable to casual viewers.
The real question is: "Why are there so many Michaels?"
Gordie
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Post by fred on May 8, 2008 10:17:03 GMT -6
Ah-h-h! yes! Friends! I have a host of friends!
There are so many "Michaels" there because no one west of the Mississippi-- outside of Boulder, CO (and you wonder about people who would name their town after a large rock!)-- has any imagination. There! Take that!
And... "largeprincess" you will notice the hat in my hand-- for what it was worth!
And you, you Pierre Petunia, go ahead, flash the old zipper pants! They happened to have been the only smart piece of garb worn by anyone on that entire 8-day trek. I mean, look at you guys! You look like a bunch of refugees from a tsunami... except that water never touched one of those bodies in the week we were out there. (Except mine, of course.) Hell, if it wasn't for the beer, you guys would have all been insufferably boring. Next time I'm going with a bevy of broads. At least the knees will be better.
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Post by BrokenSword on May 8, 2008 12:19:28 GMT -6
Hold it!
Seven men but only thirteen legs?
M
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Post by fred on May 8, 2008 15:18:13 GMT -6
Seven men but only thirteen legs? Do you notice the satisfied look on "Full Sail's" face?
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Post by crzhrs on May 9, 2008 14:44:57 GMT -6
As I look at the photo I am only too glad to say thank God I take care of myself!
Is that THE Max from the Delphi Forum?
He and I always got a long very well. He supported me when I was "abused" by those on that site that didn't like my pro-Indian, pro-Benteen posts.
Apparently one of them threatened to call the "authorities" on me because he couldn't take the heat.
Good ol' Max. Say thanks to him if you get in touch.
crzhrs
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Post by Treasuredude on May 9, 2008 18:10:47 GMT -6
Yes that is THE Max of Delphi fame.
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Post by fred on May 9, 2008 21:23:16 GMT -6
He's also known as "The Mad Max"; but that's irrelevant.
Hey! Those are the zipper pants!
Horse-- Lotta beef there, huh?
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Post by markland on May 10, 2008 10:14:17 GMT -6
He's also known as "The Mad Max"; but that's irrelevant. Hey! Those are the zipper pants!Horse-- Lotta beef there, huh? I was being nice and not pointing out that if you sold that bunch by the pound, you would have enough cash to buy Garry-Owen. Billy
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