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Post by Scout on Dec 20, 2006 20:39:28 GMT -6
I have two copies of SOTMS...the paperback has photos...the hardback has no photos but 5 or 6 color copies of all the famous Last Stand paintings through the years. FYI...
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Post by Melani on Dec 21, 2006 13:45:53 GMT -6
Elisabeth--it's on page 111. (Okay, I admit it--I look at that one a lot. ) It's dated as late 1867. Leyton--I'm sure you're right, and that's my point. Weir wasn't as good-looking as some of the others, but certainly had more to say. It's really a shame his drinking got out of hand. Possibly the guys who had nothing to talk about but ridin' and shootin' were trying to impress the Eastern young ladies with their tough manliness in the exotic environment of the Western Plains. It reminds me of a guy I knew in high school who liked to teach girls how to play guitar by sitting down on their right and showing them how to finger chords with his left hand--which of course required sitting very close and reaching around their shoulders!
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Post by Scout on Dec 21, 2006 14:43:23 GMT -6
Hey! That was Gordie!!!
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Post by harpskiddie on Dec 21, 2006 15:26:23 GMT -6
Scout:
Where did you get that from??? Or who??? I was asports hero at my high school [which didn't mean much given our athletic history], so I didn't have to resort to the old guitar lessons ploy. That came much later, in the couple of years between my college years and my hippie days. When I became a picker of some note, I didn't have to resort to anything.
All of this was before Melani's time [or most of it anyway]. Cease and desist with your idle speculation, before you get me in trouble........................
Gordie
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Post by Scout on Dec 21, 2006 21:00:02 GMT -6
Gordie...just kidding you but I thought I read that you still played guitar...
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Post by elisabeth on Dec 21, 2006 22:17:40 GMT -6
Melani, thanks! I thought it must be in there somewhere, but foolishly looked in the "Illustrations" list rather than going through page by page. Was thinking it was earlier than 1867, so missed it. Yes, it's a favourite of mine too ...
Wonder where he found a portrait photographer in "late 1867"? As far as we know -- I think -- he was at Wallace continuously throughout that year, apart from the brief trip to Denver with Hancock in the summer. Another mystery.
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Post by alfuso on Dec 22, 2006 2:50:40 GMT -6
I believe Weir could spout poetry and wax poetic, plus quotes from various classics, which made him quite the "dandy" at an outpost out of the States.
Isn't there a letter from GAC around 1869 taking Libbie to task over being attracted (or so it's implied) to an officer who is glib with words but also drinks too much? Nothing says it's Weir, but it underscores that there certainly was at least one officer having a way with words turning Libbie's head. . .
alfuso
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Post by harpskiddie on Dec 22, 2006 9:53:00 GMT -6
Scout:
I knew you were joshing me, and so was I in return, I've been retired from the axe world for a few years, leaving it up to my son to carry on the tradition [LOL]. The world has a sufficient supply of superannuated rock n rollers.
Gordie
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Post by Tricia on Dec 22, 2006 11:56:01 GMT -6
Alfuso--
You're right about the letter from GAC regarding the "officer." Now if I can only find it in the Christmas mess. And to tie two disparate threads together, I hadn't heard of the GAC hair-dying thing either .... perhaps it was in reaction to the illness he picked up in New York, or if not that, the cure!
Happy (late) Winter Solstice, LMC
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Post by AZ Ranger on Dec 22, 2006 21:10:40 GMT -6
I thought it was for a play.
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Post by Realbird on Jan 29, 2007 20:26:25 GMT -6
Once upon a time, in a far away place, men respected each other, women and men were faithful, and brothers would have preferred death to dishonor.
P.s. I didn't vote.
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Post by Tricia on Jan 29, 2007 21:00:02 GMT -6
Oh, come on RB--
To quote from The Rocky Horror Picture Show: "Risk it!" Take a stand, register your vote!
I tend to think that LBC might have been Tom's idol of sorts, the symbol of ideal, married, companionable love. And of course, she was beautiful and childless--removing the Madonna complex. That said, I don't think his feelings--if they were genuine--were ever reciprocated as Libbie's letters to him reek of blatant schoolmarmisms ...
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Post by elisabeth on Jan 30, 2007 11:43:30 GMT -6
Hmmm. I'd always assumed Tom was fully occupied chasing other and more compliant women. But now I wonder. Might Libbie's schoolmarmisms have been a subtle way of fending him off? Assuming the maternal role, to put him in his place?
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Post by harpskiddie on Jan 30, 2007 15:40:08 GMT -6
Probably was...after all, she carried a torch for Benteen all those years............
Gordie
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Post by Tricia on Jan 30, 2007 21:49:55 GMT -6
Ahh, yes. The fine line between love and hate. Well said, Gordie!
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