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Post by quincannon on Jan 21, 2015 18:23:20 GMT -6
"The basic functions are the same, even 150 years later" Do you understand what he man said? If so why did you ask the question.
Tom that stuff is so ingrained in you that you never forget it. It has been near fifty years since I led a rifle platoon, and those things seem to come back instantly when prompted with a question such as yours. Fred and Montrose will tell you the same thing.
I see that two of the brethren beat me to it, and one of them is both sailor, and Bluebonnet mower.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 18:25:13 GMT -6
Scar, answer to your question is at the bottom of the post you cite. That's the part that confused me... The manual is dated current. Did it apply back then or are we taking today's manual and applying to 1876?
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Post by quincannon on Jan 21, 2015 18:33:20 GMT -6
You can read can't you> Montrose's post was quite clear. We do now the exact same thing, set the same priorities, as were done in 1876 or 1066, or when Caesar's Legions were romping through Gaul. Basic tactical concepts never change, and the priorities for implementing them are locked in stone.
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Post by tubman13 on Jan 21, 2015 18:37:27 GMT -6
Scar, procedures for something like this have changed little since ancient Rome. They were the same in our Revolution. An army can not go on until it puts itself back in functioning order and knows what it is up against. If you wish, see how the Spartans regrouped after each Persian attack. They removed their dead, cared for wounded, and retrenched for the next phase of the battle. And they knew they were going to die.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 18:38:43 GMT -6
You can read can't you> Montrose's post was quite clear. We do now the exact same thing, set the same priorities, as were done in 1876 or 1066, or when Caesar's Legions were romping through Gaul. Basic tactical concepts never change, and the priorities for implementing them are locked in stone. Obviously not as well as you. Thank you for clarifying.
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Post by Beth on Jan 21, 2015 18:39:53 GMT -6
I see that two of the brethren beat me to it, and one of them is both sailor, and Bluebonnet mower. Poor guy, is he ever going to live that down? I'm sure the State of Texas would forgive his trangression--well maybe we have a new governor now and I hate to think that he can rival the last for foot in mouth disease. Beth
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Post by Beth on Jan 21, 2015 18:42:01 GMT -6
Psst Scarface-- "First step is always security. Then you prepare for further combat."
Beth
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Post by quincannon on Jan 21, 2015 20:40:25 GMT -6
He just better thank his lucky stars that Clara Driscoll and Senora de Zavala both now reside with the hallowed heroes of 36, and the Daughters of the Republic are so old and can't use the internet, or that nautical rascal and Bluebonnet mower would be castrated and the castrated part be offered on the altar of Sam Houston.
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Post by quincannon on Jan 21, 2015 20:41:20 GMT -6
It is always my distinct pleasure Scarface to lend aid to those so badly in need.
First you study tactics Scarface, then you have a basis to determine right from wrong. As it is you are flailing about, not knowing what to believe. That is a bad place to be, and it makes you prey to those who wish to spread myth in an effort to butter over fact.
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Post by Beth on Jan 21, 2015 21:34:34 GMT -6
He just better thank his lucky stars that Clara Driscoll and Senora de Zavala both now reside with the hallowed heroes of 36, and the Daughters of the Republic are so old and can't use the internet, or that nautical rascal and Bluebonnet mower would be castrated and the castrated part be offered on the altar of Sam Houston. I won't tell them if you don't. Beth
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Post by quincannon on Jan 21, 2015 21:40:53 GMT -6
The Daughters can't hear all that well either, so there is not much danger from that quarter.
Make no mistake though, if they ever get wind of Chris' transgressions they would roast him over the open spit at Rudi's, and serve him up as sausage, with pinto beans on the side. Maybe a teensy weensy bit of slaw too.
God I hate to think what WO and Ian will think of this conversation. Probably get on their knees and thank God for George Washington.
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Post by Beth on Jan 21, 2015 21:49:48 GMT -6
The Daughters can't hear all that well either, so there is not much danger from that quarter. Make no mistake though, if they ever get wind of Chris' transgressions they would roast him over the open spit at Rudi's, and serve him up as sausage, with pinto beans on the side. Maybe a teensy weensy bit of slaw too. God I hate to think what WO and Ian will think of this conversation. Probably get on their knees and thank God for George Washington. Have you ever seen Grant Wood's picture (Lampoon) of the DAR? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daughters_of_RevolutionEvery time you mentioned the DRT I wonder what Grant would have done with them. (Daughters of the Republic of Texas to those who are wondering) I've seen the Stained glass windows many times, they objected to and they are magnificent. Beth
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Post by quincannon on Jan 21, 2015 23:23:55 GMT -6
Two stepping clad only in a Lone Star I'd wager.
Bet you did not know that Gene Autry was related to a defender.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Daughters that a good laxative would not cure.
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Post by Beth on Jan 21, 2015 23:52:02 GMT -6
Two stepping clad only in a Lone Star I'd wager. Bet you did not know that Gene Autry was related to a defender. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Daughters that a good laxative would not cure. You have a good idea how poor my Texas history is. I've only been here 2 1/2 years after all. On the other hand there may be hope. John Wayne was from Iowa as well and everyone knows he fought at the Alamo. Beth
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Post by Yan Taylor on Jan 22, 2015 5:52:05 GMT -6
I do watch the international news you know, but you are correct Chuck, I haven’t the foggiest on what you are all talking about, going back to the news, someone mentioned about the new bond being formed between the USA and Cuba, the guy who is against the bond said “old enemies don’t make good friends” which rings true in most cases.
Yes Beth, Wayne was there and he went up with the powder kegs, but so was Laurence Harvey and his was from Lithuania.
Going back to Reno hill, I agree with Chuck and Montrose, the area did required two battalions to defend it, what did they do “move” I would have thought that around 100 or so men with plenty of ammo would stand a better chance than a long strung out train, imagine what a tempting target that would make with men carrying wounded in blankets, walking wounded and slow moving mules, so like I said, I agree that the area needed more men that could be spared, but I would have left the trooper packers along with the weakest company left out of Reno’s battalion and any others that had no mounts.
Ian.
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