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Post by Frank on Apr 10, 2007 7:11:53 GMT -6
...anyone of you ever heard of any Chinese being living with Indians? ...and NO, this has nothing to do with Shanghai Noon movie or anything like that . I was just wondering, maybe that thought came to me because of that picture where that Indian (Dog Child) was holding the Samurai sword...I dunno, I'm just curious and a Finn, what can you expect?
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Post by ladonna on Apr 17, 2007 11:41:16 GMT -6
Too funny, We had some Chinese men who lived on Standing Rock and married into the tribe.
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Post by harpskiddie on Apr 17, 2007 14:35:30 GMT -6
Frank:
The railroads in Canada [don't know about the U.S.] relied rather heavily on Chinese men for labor. So did mines, and the Chinese were well known for reworking abandoned claims in the Cariboo, Boundary and other "rush" areas.
I would think it likely that a few of these men would have settled among the Indian peoples, although I can't quote you any evidence. Ladonna seems to have answered the question already.
Gordie, the music begins to play, and I'm automatically on my way...........................................
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Post by Frank on Apr 17, 2007 15:31:07 GMT -6
Evidence is what I'm after... after all I'm just curious, two interesting cultures, Chinese and Native Americans. It would be interesting to hear it if a china man would have brought something from his own culture to every day Plains Indian life .
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Post by harpskiddie on Apr 17, 2007 22:24:00 GMT -6
One of the bands in the interior of B.C. used to run a small manufacturing company that made [are you ready for this?] CHOPSTICKS. This is not a joke. I am not sure if the company is still in business, but it was a going concern up to a few years ago.
Gordie, I'll have the prairie oysters, chicken fried rice and fry bread.......................................................
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Post by grahamew on Apr 18, 2007 6:04:51 GMT -6
The Central Pacific relied heavily on Chinese labour - but this is a Japanese sword and the photo's got to be from the 1890s at least (and I'm pretty sure it's Canadian).
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Post by Frank on Apr 18, 2007 8:34:29 GMT -6
Its not about the sword pic anymore, I was just wondering about the Chinese... as I said, I was just curious if anyone ever come up with any info about China man living with Indians like so many black and white men did. After all, it ain't so "long distance connection" if all the Plains Indians originally come from Asia anyway, through Beringia? ;D
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Post by harpskiddie on Apr 18, 2007 8:35:18 GMT -6
The photo, I believe, has already been identified as that of a RNWMP scout [maybe before the Royal part], which is why I mentioned the Canadian possibilities. True about the sword.
Gordie, I was born one mornin' when the sun didn't shine........................................................
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Post by sergiomura on Apr 25, 2007 14:26:15 GMT -6
Never heard about any Chinese man among american indians...
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Post by Frank on Apr 25, 2007 15:50:10 GMT -6
Sergiomura...I couldnt understand jack about your websites texts but it does look pretty damn nice! You need to make it to be also in english.... THANK YOU ;D.
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Post by Frank on Apr 25, 2007 15:50:50 GMT -6
...and Charlie.... you could help him to do it as a fellow Italian ;D ;D ;D hurry up please... grazie.
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Post by willpix on Jul 16, 2007 17:08:45 GMT -6
This is Lisa, posting under my partner's tag....
Ummmm....if it was a Samurai sword, it wouldn't have been Chinese -- Samurai swords are Japanese. For some reason, many non-Asians get confused about the two very different cultures. Sort of like some people have a hard time differentiating between New Mexico (the state) and Mexico (the country).
Here's a little story for you: About twenty years ago, I was working at my office in Hilo, Hawaii when an old man walked up the steps and asked to speak to me. His name was Frank King and he said he'd gotten my name from the service station next door after getting into a conversation with the owner about his (Frank's) being an Indian. The owner told him he thought I was part Indian, too, so Frank decided to look me up.
This is his story, as near as I can recollect it. Frank was born about 1920, the son of a Crow Indian woman in Montana and a passing Japanese laborer working on the railroad. Frank was raised by his mother at or near Crow Agency until he graduated from high school. At that time, his Japanese dad reappeared in his life and offered to send Frank to medical school in Japan. Frank arrived in Japan and had no sooner started medical school when Japan became involved in war (WWII) and and eventually Frank and his schoolmates were conscripted into the Japanese navy and sent to China. The ship Frank was on was captured by the U.S. military force, and Frank was sent to the U.S. mainland as a P.O.W, eventually winding up in the relocation camp at Hart Mountain, Wyoming (many Americans of Japanese Ancestry were also interned here) where he spent the remainder of the war. After the war was over, he did not want to go back to Japan, but he had difficulty finding employment in the U.S. because of having been associated with the enemy. So he went to Mexico and found work on fishing boats up and down the Mexican coast and along Central America (he spoke fluent Spanish). Eventually, Frank met and married a woman of Chinese/Hawaiian ancestry and together, they had a large brood of children. After retiring, Frank and his wife built an ocean-front house in Kapoho on the Big Island of Hawaii.
They invited me over once for a long Sunday afternoon and showed me their beautiful Crow artifacts and photos of their lovely grown children and grand children. They were very warm and kind people.
Frank is gone now, but I sometimes think of him and wonder about his unusual life. I wonder if anybody in Crow Agency or perhaps somebody from the Hart Mountain camp still remembers him ....?
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Post by Melani on Jul 17, 2007 17:57:48 GMT -6
Wow, Lisa, what a great story! Thanks.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Jul 17, 2007 23:08:01 GMT -6
Yes, a great story. What an interesting life. I bet there are some Crow elders who would remember him but, unfortunately, I don't have any contacts within the tribe.
To change the subject . . . . Does anyone know what happened to Frank? He was so much fun. I miss him.
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Post by Frank on Jul 27, 2007 19:56:11 GMT -6
I'm still alive and kicking but thanks 4 asking Lisa! I've just been busy as hell with my work and my whole website has been on hold because of that. You see, when I do these 12 hour working days and then try to have some "normal life" too, the time pretty much goes for that but... I will "return" as soon as I have some time to build up my website again. You can be sure I have tons of questions I need answers for....
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