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Post by bubbabod on Sept 3, 2007 23:16:07 GMT -6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Scout:
I would be totally content if Hollywood never made another movie on the LBH or Wounded Knee. The History Channel is just as bad. gocav, I can never get numb either.
Scout, I'm like you about Hollywood and their movies about the LBH and other aspects of the Indian Wars, such as "Into The west," and I never get tired of them despite the many inaccuracies. BUT, I would love it if they would make one that is balls-on accurate. Some day, who knows?
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Post by crzhrs on Sept 4, 2007 11:43:58 GMT -6
For now we only have SON OF THE MORNING STAR being the most accurate albeit with numerous holes.
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Post by Scout on Sept 4, 2007 15:06:46 GMT -6
Yea I gotta agree horse, at least 'Son' got the players right. How many movies even mention Tom, Cooke, Bloody Knife, etc? But it is the closes Hollywood has come to the event. But if I remember right the Crazy Horse movie came close to being correct.
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Post by crzhrs on Sept 5, 2007 7:50:56 GMT -6
Re: Crazy Horse movie?
The one TNT did a few years back? Very well done, more of a "LSD trip" with the visions and flash backs of Crazy Horse. I think Horten was Custer and did a good job. Some of the battle scenes were very good.
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Post by janajoy on Apr 6, 2008 21:32:14 GMT -6
I think all of you need to research further...I know that General Custer would not have told his troops to go at war with the Sioux to the battle, but because of his injury being shot with an arrow between his arm and chest, he went crazy. He in fact broke the part of the arrow, that did not penetrate his body, off and then did not get any medical attention. He was clearly out of his mind when he sent his troops to kill the NA. I know, because I was told by my ancestors. I am one of Custers granddaughters, and I know that there is a Monaseta, and a Yellowbird. I am very proud of my heritage, and this is how my family started. By the way, Custer may have captured Native American women, and his troops also did the same, but...I have been told that he fell in love with my grandmother and this is how Yellow bird came about. I have an authentic picture of my Grandfather, Yellow Bird, as a grown man and we cherish this photo.
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Post by alfuso on Apr 6, 2008 22:20:13 GMT -6
Janajoy
A man who was wounded in the civil war, had horses fall on him was kicked into unconcious ess by one, survived snAke bite, suddenly goes crazy over an arrow wound? Not in his realm
But I'd sure like to see the photo sin e no one has ever been able to provide one
Alfuso
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Post by gocav76 on Apr 6, 2008 23:19:55 GMT -6
Perhaps Custer's syphilis flared up. Al Capone was raving mad crazy the last few years of his life because of syphilis.
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Post by alfuso on Apr 7, 2008 1:41:52 GMT -6
gocav76
interesting - since Custer had none of the symptoms of syphillis. He had had a few cases of clap, however.
alfuso
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Post by alfuso on Apr 7, 2008 1:45:52 GMT -6
janajoy
Custer didn't send his troops to kill the NA. He was under orders to try to bring them in. And he LED his troops.
alfuso
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Post by alfuso on Apr 7, 2008 1:50:48 GMT -6
janajoy
research further...I've researched this for 50 years now.
alfuso
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Post by crzhrs on Apr 7, 2008 9:43:30 GMT -6
Maybe the Indians put frog poison on the arrow. I know the Indians of South America do that to go hunting.
Aha . . . that explains Richard Mulligan in Little Big Man!
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Post by BrokenSword on Apr 7, 2008 10:19:31 GMT -6
OR crzhrs, maybe they dipped their arrows in Reno's captured canteen?
I always thought that dipping bullets in the soup at Parris Island would be effective, but the Geneva Conventions expressly forbade that as too cruel. Oh well.
M
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Post by Melani on Apr 8, 2008 21:22:09 GMT -6
I thought Dr. Porter said he had two bullet wounds.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Apr 11, 2008 21:31:08 GMT -6
janajoy,
I must say upfront that I have never believed the Monaseetah story, so I don't believe Yellow Bird was Custer's son. In this day and age, it should be easy to prove with the cooperation of one of Nevin Custer's descendants and DNA testing. If they can do it for Jefferson, they can do it for Custer.
It's not up to any researcher to prove a negative (that Yellow Bird wasn't Custer's son); rather, it's up to your family to prove he was.
In any event, you have every reason to be proud of your heritage -- as we all do -- but perpetuating a myth does no one any good except book sellers.
Best wishes,
Diane
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Apr 12, 2008 15:05:43 GMT -6
I think all of you need to research further...I know that General Custer would not have told his troops to go at war with the Sioux to the battle, but because of his injury being shot with an arrow between his arm and chest, he went crazy. He in fact broke the part of the arrow, that did not penetrate his body, off and then did not get any medical attention. He was clearly out of his mind when he sent his troops to kill the NA. I know, because I was told by my ancestors. I am one of Custers granddaughters, and I know that there is a Monaseta, and a Yellowbird. I am very proud of my heritage, and this is how my family started. By the way, Custer may have captured Native American women, and his troops also did the same, but...I have been told that he fell in love with my grandmother and this is how Yellow bird came about. I have an authentic picture of my Grandfather, Yellow Bird, as a grown man and we cherish this photo.
From 'Custer and His Times, Book Four' and an article by Ralph Heinz, 'Bigelow Neal and Dr. Porter' page 228, reporting information told to Neal by Porter, "I [Porter] found that he [Custer] had been shot twice. One a wound high in the shoulder which, unless it became infected, would not be fatal, the other a bullet hole in the temple."Dr. Porter reported these same wounds in other LBH literature. As he would obviously know an arrow wound from a bullet wound and had no reason to lie, it appears janajoy, that your family's oral history is incorrect on this point, I regret to say. Sorry. Hunk
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