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Post by Montana Bab on Mar 29, 2007 19:48:00 GMT -6
Dear Gordie, None of what you posted is as 'strange' as "His Dagger is Droopy (Umatilla ) " YOU DID POT ?? BAB
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Post by harpskiddie on Mar 29, 2007 21:03:54 GMT -6
Band B:
Who me? Darlin' I did everything that one didn't have to inject or snort. The only reason I didn't do Coke was because I had a friend whose first experience with it was the last of his short and promising life, and I discovered that this was not a unique experience; and I saw too many others of my brothers and sisters either wasted beyond belief from being strung out behind something, or buried far too early. You know: "Live hard, die young, and leave a zit-filled and pock-marked face on your skinny corpse."
Pot parties were actually rather mild events. I usually got drunk or hashed out and fell asleep, unless I had something important to do later on that day, in which case I stayed straight. There were undoubtedly people of me age who didn't do pot or other s--t - I used to have their names on a list, I think. But they were definitely into avocadoes, walnuts, distilled water, peanut butter and pecan pies [peecahn, darlin'], which is just as bad.
That was a real Twilight Zone....doodoodoodoo..........
Gordie
PS went to the PO today. The sun shone!!!
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Post by Diane Merkel on Mar 29, 2007 21:59:45 GMT -6
Winnie the Pooh was big, too. Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't like Pooh?
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Post by Tricia on Mar 29, 2007 23:24:14 GMT -6
I prefer Eeyore ... and it has to be the original character. None of this Walt Disney cute as a button stuff. Yuck! I like my stuffed donkey characters dark and gloomy, especially when they lose their favorite tails ... I feel as if I'm doing a lot of that these days. Sigh. At least my Cubbies look hopeful!
Perhaps a new thread is needed: Drug Abuse Among The Seventh Cavalry. I know cocaine was widely used back then as just another stimulant--not unlike caffeine. Dangerous stuff, however. Though it happened some fifty years after Custer, Nicholas II of Russia was quite a user of the drug whilst serving at the Stavka. Add pharmaceuticals with the DTs, whiskey, the frontier and young men away from home ....
As for your last post, Gordie, I'm just a sheltered suburban girl (though I've tried my best to Bohemian myself): Palatine, Illinois. Put me on that short list (albeit a few years down the road from y'all)... ! Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull. Now Phillip could have told you some stories that were downright scary. Especially the time he hid the needle filled with dilaudid under the back seat of the cop cruiser ... yikes. What Cobb County, GA doesn't know ...
--t.
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Post by Montana Bab on Mar 30, 2007 10:26:22 GMT -6
Gordie,
Thank you, and God bless the sunshine ! Doodah, doodah.
PS, There's the title to your next book: "The REAL Twilight Zone".
Trish: Whoever sat on that needle with Dilaudid in it didn't feel a thing !
Bab
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Post by elisabeth on Mar 30, 2007 11:18:01 GMT -6
Tricia, that is interesting. Had no idea that cocaine was widely used then. Knew about things like laudanum and so on, but NO notion re that ... Fascinating. Wonder what the supply chain was? Was it accepted for some kind of medical use, and they got it that way? Or did it come via Mexico? Or what?
Aaaah, the sixties. Fun times. Ashamed to say I found pot a bit boring -- it just made me sleepy. Maybe I lack imagination. So I only tried it a couple of times, just to be sociable ... Had a friend, though, who tried LSD, and she's been totally loopy ever since. Not nice stuff. Alcohol's better! You know where you are with it, and it tastes nice: what more can you ask?!
Eeyore is my favourite, too. The only creation to match him is Marvin the Paranoid Android in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. ("Life? Don't talk to me about life. Here I am, brain the size of a small planet ...") Gorgeous. BTW, if anyone else is a fan, do try to get the original BBC radio recording of that; it's streets ahead of either the TV or movie versions. Delightful ...
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Post by harpskiddie on Mar 30, 2007 11:31:15 GMT -6
Tigger is my daughter's guy; but I gotta say it gets rather tiring seeing his image everywhere in the house, and now my granddaughter's being indoctrinated. I kinda leaned toward the grumpy old cuss myself, and I had to laugh [followed by a bray] when one of my old girlfriends asked: "How'd he come up with a name like that?"
Have a great day, ladies!!!
Gordie
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Post by BrokenSword on Mar 30, 2007 14:28:33 GMT -6
Trish and Elisabeth-
The 'drug-scene' in the Old West would be fascinating indeed. Opium was also widely known at that time, I believe. Wyatt Earp’s girl-friend/2nd-wife was said to be drug addict. Many, many vets of the ACW became drug addicts after being wounded and remained addicted for the rest of their lives. Can’t imagine soldiers of any historical period NOT sampling most of the vices available. Coke-a-Cola was invented by a druggist (chemist) and originally contained cocaine as a prime ingredient . People gave it to their children to ‘settle them down.’ Not joking about that. Didn’t need a prescription. It was ALL over the counter then.
M
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Post by harpskiddie on Mar 30, 2007 18:08:12 GMT -6
Cocaine was prevalent into the 1920s, at least, as a social drug of choice, possibly rivalling alcohol among women. I haven't done extensive research on the topic [time], but have seen numerous references to its use in letters, journals, etc. For some reason, it fell out of favor. I have no idea why.
It probably was all over the counter, and all you needed was a straw or a wet fingertip. I'm not sure when cocaine was removed from Coca Cola, but I'll wager it was well into the 20th century.
Gordie
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Post by Treasuredude on Mar 30, 2007 18:12:48 GMT -6
I'm not sure when cocaine was removed from Coca Cola, but I'll wager it was well into the 20th century. Gordie Ahhh, the original Coca Cola Classic.
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Post by BrokenSword on Mar 30, 2007 18:48:27 GMT -6
New Englanders imported 25,000 pounds of opium in 1840. In 1874 San Francisco banned the smoking of Opium within the city limits - the exceptions were the various Chinatowns and their opium dens. Coca-a-Cola removed the coke from Coke in 1901. The USA banned the legal sale of all narcotics in 1923.
Interesting thought that the Indian agents didn't try to make opium availabe on the reservations in some way. It was apparently dirt cheap in the 1800's. As many pipes as I have seen in photos of Indians - it would seem a natural.
Can you see Custer's attack at the Little Bighorn met by smiling Indians saying, "HEY DUDE! Waaaaay harsh, man. CHILL, BRO."
Opium, morphine and cocaine seem to have been freely available in most bottled medicines in the 1870s. Even one supposes to 7th Cav. members so inclined. I wonder how discharges for addiction would have been worded?
'Cocaine Tooth Ache Drops' cost fifteen cents in 1890. Opium and cocaine seem to have been freely available in most bottled medicines in the 1870s. Even one supposes to 7th Cav. members so inclined.
M
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Post by Lawtonka on Mar 30, 2007 19:26:59 GMT -6
Dang, did I miss something....how did this tread turn in to a discussion about dope??
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Post by BrokenSword on Mar 30, 2007 19:49:25 GMT -6
Lawtonka-
Trish and Elisabeth started it
M (the snitch)
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Post by BrokenSword on Mar 30, 2007 19:51:10 GMT -6
P.S.
...and Gordie and Bab. I was just hanging around man. I wasn't doin' nothin'.
M
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Post by Tricia on Mar 30, 2007 21:05:12 GMT -6
Gordie, Thank you, and God bless the sunshine ! Doodah, doodah. PS, There's the title to your next book: "The REAL Twilight Zone". Trish: Whoever sat on that needle with Dilaudid in it didn't feel a thing ! Bab Bornandbred--here's the long, rambling half-take: Though there were but four and a half years between Phillip and I, it is as if an entire generation went by from 1956 to 1960! He was just one year removed from the draft for Vietnam service, and I grooved to the music of Kajagoogoo (remember them?). He dug the folkies and I loved New Wave ... very, very apart musically. In that sense, he was of age to truly enjoy (even when it came to "amusements") all of the aspects of the 1970s whilst I was--quite literally--still a little kid in thought and deed; okay, I was in middle and high school and hopelessly naive. The yin and yang of us as a couple worked, however ... and I so miss his gentle presence and his quiet guidance; we brought out the best in each other. Why did we only have twelve years? Why? What does this have to do with Custer? Lemme bring this back to the subject. Well, Sweet Boy saw and remembered The Twilight Zone's first run and I was stuck with those Labour Day marathons whilst living in--yes, indeed--The San Fernando Valley. Oh, and I was so young Night Gallery scared the bejesus out of me. Still, P came to love Little Bighorn and all of its mysteries, even GAC, which is good, as his appearance and resemblance to Custer confused more than a few people! Folks always asked us if studio shots of the Boy General were actually The Husband in old-fashioned poses and costumes(look out Steve Alexander!) ... I got to the point where I asked, "Why would he choose to be just a major general?" And to address the other issue (good drugs) added to this thread, what I meant by the term "widely used" was not so much addressing the sheer number of users on the frontier, but rather cocaine's acceptance by society as just another stimulant. I think Brokensword covered the subject quite nicely ... Laudanum seems, however, seems to have belonged in more of the females' realm. An excellent manner to exact control on the sex, to avoid the mythological Fall ... and females certainly fell prey to the opiate. I seem to recall a letter from GAC to Libbie (somewhere, sometime) where he went into detail about a soldier's addiction to morphine ... and its rather awful consequences ... of course, GAC was hardly one to talk about financial ruin. Still, how many cavalry wives had fallen prey to its promises? BTW ... next year is here, Gordie. And you too, Fred! Eamus Catuli, indeed! --t.
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