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Post by BrokenSword on Apr 20, 2008 8:22:18 GMT -6
Crawdaddo, you’re completely welcome.
Diane is, no doubt, correct about where the ‘Last Stand’ and the Ft. A. Lincoln scenes were filmed. Little Big Man was filmed in the Hardin area near the Battlefield as well. Archeologists, a couple of years ago, thought they had found a cartridges case in that area, but it turned out to be a discarded lip stick tube dating from (most probably) when the film-makers were there making that movie.
I seriously doubt the Park Service would allow a movie crew to come in and impact any area of a park in the way they had to do. Movie makers can create some amazingly simple illusions with second unit filming, camera angles and good editing. It’s very likely that the Badlands weren’t even visited by any of the actors appearing in the movie. Just a second unit film crew with some acting doubles capturing scenery to be edited in and give depth and scope to what we saw in the completed product.
You are right about the Badlands being beautiful country despite its name. I’ve been many places but never had the privilege of seeing the Badlands beyond photographs. Somehow, I’ve missed the Dakotas entirely. Why would I have been there (of all places)? Besides, I hear that’s pretty much the way the Indians wanted it to begin with.
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Post by markland on Apr 20, 2008 10:00:44 GMT -6
I can find nothing in Connell that refers to any of Crook's soldiers from the Rosebud fight being captured by the Indians. In "The Battle of the Rosebud:Prelude to the Little Bighorn" by Neil C. Mangum, details of Crook's casualties are listed and there is no mention of any soldiers missing, only killed or wounded. If the soldier in the film clip is not one of Reno's, the mystery remains. Hunk OK, I'll second Hunk's statement but my sources are the regimental returns. No troops are listed as "Missing" after the Rosebud fight. As Hunk stated, they are either dead or wounded. "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", what a fantastic song and the album it is on, "Wish You Were Here", is got to be in any rock fan's top fifty of all-time rock albums I'm free-form typing in an effort to delay mowing the &%###$$@ grass for the first time today. Billy, ye old procrastinator, AKA, the man who refuses to waste any last minutes!
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Post by alfuso on Apr 20, 2008 17:35:00 GMT -6
I found the Montana "Badlands" to be merely naughty.
But oh, the Dakota Badlands at sunset...
And at dawn when it's all kind of silver and the ground squirrels walk all over you if you stand very still -- and they are silver too!
alfuso
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Post by El Crab on Sept 25, 2008 21:34:52 GMT -6
In addition, a young Dennis Weaver was in it. He survived the Rosebud battle in the film. Well that explains how, as a meek salesman, was able to vanquish that evil semi truck.
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Post by El Crab on Sept 25, 2008 21:45:07 GMT -6
Diane is, no doubt, correct about where the ‘Last Stand’ and the Ft. A. Lincoln scenes were filmed. Little Big Man was filmed in the Hardin area near the Battlefield as well. Archeologists, a couple of years ago, thought they had found a cartridges case in that area, but it turned out to be a discarded lip stick tube dating from (most probably) when the film-makers were there making that movie. Little Big Man's Little Big Horn scenes were shot on Nye-Cartwright Ridge and down at Ford B. Private land. You can see the very distinctive bluff next to MTC. And in the horizon, you can see the even more distinctive shape of Weir Point.
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Post by Margaret on Dec 10, 2010 8:13:24 GMT -6
way too late on this thread now, but would just like to point out nevertheless, that the white man in the photo on page 1, seems to appear again charging up Custer Hill in between Indians as if he is on their side, at least it looks like the same actor dressed in the same clothes. It's a brief shot but he is seen running with the Indians towards Custer just before C gets shot. I thought Major Reno was recorded as saying he had every squaw man in the country coming at him on the skirmish line, [something I don't believe], but perhaps they included one or two for that reason. Some of the editing did leave a bit to be desired. There are a number of repeat shots of Indians charging and the funny one for me is one of the troopers on Custer's skirmish line, with a feather in his cap, get's shot dead and in the next scene he's back up again firing away
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Post by crzhrs on Dec 10, 2010 8:54:27 GMT -6
<the funny one for me is one of the troopers on Custer's skirmish line, with a feather in his cap, get's shot dead and in the next scene he's back up again firing away>
Apparently they couldn't afford a "cast of thousands"
Still the movie is the best of the Custer/LBH ones . . . with a few holes in it.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Dec 10, 2010 10:43:02 GMT -6
It was a made for television movie, no budget, bad continuity issues, and a bad movie by any standard. It provided a strapping Custer as opposed to the shorter, far thinner, chinless, balding reality with a high voice and stutter. When Benteen is made to say "mistakes were made", the whole thing collapsed as that was, then, a common PC term utterly removed from the reality or Benteen's character. That betrayed the intent of the movie in the early 1990's.
It was actually made for women, since it's narrated by Custer's wife and first appeared on a cable channel devoted to that audience, I think. It did not honor the book, nor try to.
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Post by El Crab on Feb 12, 2011 1:57:07 GMT -6
It was a made for television movie, no budget, bad continuity issues, and a bad movie by any standard. It provided a strapping Custer as opposed to the shorter, far thinner, chinless, balding reality with a high voice and stutter. When Benteen is made to say "mistakes were made", the whole thing collapsed as that was, then, a common PC term utterly removed from the reality or Benteen's character. That betrayed the intent of the movie in the early 1990's. It was actually made for women, since it's narrated by Custer's wife and first appeared on a cable channel devoted to that audience, I think. It did not honor the book, nor try to. It wasn't on cable, DC. It was shown on ABC.
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Post by Dark Cloud on Feb 12, 2011 12:36:26 GMT -6
Isn't ABC cable? No? I stand corrected.
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Post by El Crab on Feb 12, 2011 17:33:47 GMT -6
<the funny one for me is one of the troopers on Custer's skirmish line, with a feather in his cap, get's shot dead and in the next scene he's back up again firing away> Apparently they couldn't afford a "cast of thousands" Still the movie is the best of the Custer/LBH ones . . . with a few holes in it. Hardly the worst example. After all, I never noticed it. An egregious example of reusing actors is when the unfortunate bastard holding a set of 4s is pulled to the ground and the horses gallop off into the smoke and dust. He stumbles and scampers after them and then falls upon a dead trooper with a pained expression, wearing a white straw hat. Sure looks like the actor who played Major Reno also plays this dead soldier.
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Post by bc on Feb 13, 2011 9:39:06 GMT -6
<the funny one for me is one of the troopers on Custer's skirmish line, with a feather in his cap, get's shot dead and in the next scene he's back up again firing away> Apparently they couldn't afford a "cast of thousands" Still the movie is the best of the Custer/LBH ones . . . with a few holes in it. Hardly the worst example. After all, I never noticed it. An egregious example of reusing actors is when the unfortunate bastard holding a set of 4s is pulled to the ground and the horses gallop off into the smoke and dust. He stumbles and scampers after them and then falls upon a dead trooper with a pained expression, wearing a white straw hat. Sure looks like the actor who played Major Reno also plays this dead soldier. Guess I'll watch for those the next time but I may recall the one about the Reno lookalike but that would really be poor directing to allow that to happen. Something about a feather in your cap says torture me. bc
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Post by "Hunk" Papa on Feb 13, 2011 17:53:40 GMT -6
Hardly the worst example. After all, I never noticed it. An egregious example of reusing actors is when the unfortunate bastard holding a set of 4s is pulled to the ground and the horses gallop off into the smoke and dust. He stumbles and scampers after them and then falls upon a dead trooper with a pained expression, wearing a white straw hat. Sure looks like the actor who played Major Reno also plays this dead soldier. Guess I'll watch for those the next time but I may recall the one about the Reno lookalike but that would really be poor directing to allow that to happen. Something about a feather in your cap says torture me. bc Does that mean you're tickled pink or have you earned a coup feather? Hunk
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Post by El Crab on Feb 15, 2011 3:33:24 GMT -6
Upon further inspection, I don't think its the same actor. But they look very similar and both actors wore straw hats. Probably a poor choice for a quick shot of a dead trooper on Custer's field.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Feb 19, 2011 20:50:32 GMT -6
So they died with their hats on?
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