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Post by bubbabod on May 21, 2006 8:08:30 GMT -6
As to where the picture was taken and the arrows being post mortum, I was looking at that arrow in his right side. If he was lying in that position when it entered his body after he was stripped and mutilated, what position must that warrior have been to shoot that arrow? Laying on his side?
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Post by markland on Aug 9, 2006 22:54:17 GMT -6
While reading Nye's Plains Indian Raiders I spotted the title of W. A. Bell's book in the citations and went looking for it on the internet. So far, I have found this excerpt from the University of Virginia digital library. Enjoy, Billy etext.lib.virginia.edu/railton/roughingit/map/indbell.html
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Post by elisabeth on Aug 10, 2006 4:07:18 GMT -6
Great find, Billy. The book itself is pretty rare, even in the Horn & Wallace 1965 facsimile reprint, and expensive to buy, so that's really useful.
It's high time someone brought out a new and affordable paperback reprint, really ...
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Post by Scout on Aug 10, 2006 7:17:22 GMT -6
I've studied that photo very closely and several of the arrows look like they have been 'inked' in. Now this might have been done by someone to high-light the existing arrows or to embellish the picture. I'm with Elisabeth though...I would hate to think they stuck more in the corpse, that is a gruesome thought. Civil War photographers were know to move bodies around and rearrange things for a better photo. The most famous is of a dead confederate killed at Gettysburg who appears in several of Gardner's photos and who has obviously been moved around. Wyllams body could have been brought in to the post where the photographer was...arrows reinserted and photographed. This might not have been so 'abnormal' for the times. People were probably a little more emotionally hardened back then and particularly of those that saw such sights on a regular basis.
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Post by dafydd on Dec 2, 2006 20:12:30 GMT -6
This is addressed to any of Sgt Wyllams (or Wylyams?) relatives in England.
I am interested in this topic for several reasons (1) I served in combat as Company K Commander in the 7th Cavalry in Korea in 1951 and am active in the Korean War Chapter of the 7th Cav (2) I am an active member of the Old Colorado City Historical Society, (Colorado Springs vicinity) where we are interested in both the Civil War actions that affected Colorado Territory - the Glorieta Pass Campaign, and the Indian Wars that accompanied it when Federal troops were withdrawn to the East - between 1861 to the 1880s, and (3) I am descended from 11 generations of Welsh (dafydd ap Hugh, 1588).
The name Wyllams sounds very Welsh. Were Sgt Wyllam's ancestors from Wales? If not, where did than name come from?
I pick up on any frontiersmen from Wales. I know there were plenty of Irish in the 7th Cav, but I am curious about this Sergeant.
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Post by gary on May 5, 2007 4:53:20 GMT -6
There is an extended version of my comments on the Wyllyams photograph in the latest issue of 'The Crow's Nest', the journal of the Custer Association of Great Britain.
Of more interest in the same issue however is an in depth study of Wyllyams' life by Peter Russell.
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Post by newn on Sept 26, 2010 17:43:01 GMT -6
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